does anyone know where the un moved their statement about the watchtower ngo association?
it used to be that you could use the search function (see: http://search.un.org/search?q=watchtower+bible+tract+society+filetype%3apdf&btng=search+un+website&output=xml_no_dtd&client=un_website_en&proxystylesheet=un_website_en&oe=utf-8&ie=utf-8.
&adv=true&lr=lang_en&num=100&sort=score&submit2=search&ulang=en&entqrm=0&ud=1&exclude_apps=1&site= ) and find it in the results, but as of january, i can't find it anymore.
Here is the link to the archived PDF. It does have ",...un.gov\,.." within the URL but am unsure that this is a "proof" that it is a valid UN Letter.
I'm not saying it's not, I believe it is, but am thinking what a jw apologist would argue. Better to be prepared than surprised.
http://web.archive.org/web/20090126152929/http://un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf
NJY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mblywsowuvi&list=uuzmjy8ccss1_0sswprk4yia&feature=c4-overview.
I watched his entire series last year with this guy and another elder off screen. Not sure which one it is but the elder on screen there in the picture says something to the effect " I used to hit all the pu$$y I could" paraphrasing but he talked about getting all he could when he was younger and he said this to a bible study, he did not use the V word either.
NJY
i apologize if this topic was already covered, i didn't have time to look thru several pages of posts.... after several years of fighting their ban in russia.
russian court declares jw's literature extremist:.
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140113/186483571/russian-court-declares-jehovahs-witness-brochures-extremist.html?fb_action_ids=530487500391762&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%5b1377130229215916%5d&action_type_map=%5b%22og.recommends%22%5d&action_ref_map=%5b%5d.
I think that it is amazing that the article listed above from 1952 closes with this comment "The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates , even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship."
Really,..",... even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship." Is saying that the Jws that have Apostate family should expect to have a harder time NOT KILLING the apostates, since they are their family members. Not an easier time, not killing them, but a harder time not killing them. WOW!!
NJY
ive been watching "the following" lately and my wife watched a few episodes with me.
she couldnt fathom at first the depth that mind control or "destructive influence" can take you.
so in accordance with hassans "freedom of mind" i have decided that exposing other cults to my wife will help me help her to find correlations to the wt and hopefully lead her to the bite model.
Hope I inserted this correctly. It is the story of a Mormon that made his way out and it rang true with me.
i read the watchtower article on this "new light.
" has any information on how "this generation" turned into two overlapping generations of only anointed people been printed?
the word "evidence" was thrown around a lot in the article, but none was provided unless something has been printed since then and i have missed it.
I will use Matthew 1:1-17 , especially 17 if i ever get the chance.
NJY
as i was laying in bed i thought of a question to ask my wife.
"when the wt has an article on the next change in teaching or new light, just guessing, what do you think it might be?".
it does not need to be phrased just like that, but i thought it might be a powerful question since it would make the jw subconsciously question all of the current teachings, something they are not taught to do.
I asked my brother, who is still in, "Are you saying that their will not change any doctrines from this point onward?" He replied," No,.. You know we can't say that will never happen" I then replied " So your admitting that some of the things that you believe now, could be wrong,.. some of those things you base your life and the life of your children on" I hope that this would stick in his head and simmer a bit.
NJY
i know that title sounds weird but so is this situation.
with the following information i'm about to desconspire myself a little bit, but i don't really care since i will simply deny it if any of my elders are lurking here.
anyway the situation is the following.
Do they have any recorders out in your parts?
Be a nice thing to have later, just for fun.
NJY
many times at the kh i heard the various brothers boasting how the kh had good numbers in attendance and the churches of christendom did not.. i 've just worked out why this is; you cannot leave.
you either fade, get df'd or da yourself.
talk about hobson's choice.. talk about me seeing the light!!!.
You forgot about dieing.
NJY
... btw it was soooo boooorrrinnng!!!
draw close to jehovah(tm)/bookstudy:.
excruciatingly boring.
There is a youtube video out there that shows some old Jw literature that states, at different times that both Satan AND Jesus were Abbadon.
Not that you would find it interesting enough to watch but thought it interesting.
NJY
according to a new "bible questions answered": " the wild beast with seven heads introduced at revelation 13:1 represents the worldwide political system.".
i know that they have quietly been backing away from the un identification for awhile.
is this feature on jw.org a new official teaching, or just a spin for the sake of the public?.
This thread reminds me to pick up some mushrooms for the salad tonight.
NJY
