Do you think they sweep the room for bugs before each GB meeting? I would love to have some one plant a wireless bug in there to beam out what is being discussed.
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New to The Jehovahs Witness Faith and need some help
by jnjburkett inhello there i am new to the faith and have been studying for about a month.
i am very excited and hungry for the truth and have not missed a meeting or study since the memorial.
we do about 2 bible studies a week.
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About the reporting of the YMCA meet ups and you telling the other Jws and the elders. They will not chastise this person infront of a new prospective member. The last thing that they would want you to see is a current member being counseled about something so silly.
Here is a video showing the article from the Jws stating that fact. The video actually has another reason behind being made but it covers the YMCA issue perfectly. There is so much you need to know, we are trying to help you with this and I know that you are hearing some conflicting info and I would like to share a few other links where you can go to get info about this "High Control Group" aka cult.
See Steven Hassan, cult expert, website at freedomofmind.com and see that he list the Jws as a High Control Group. Look up the BITE model from Steven Hassan to see HOW the group will eventually, if you continue to buy what they are selling, control you and your husbands life. There are some great videos from user Brad Zook on youtube showing how the BITE model relates to the Jws.
Also consider checking out jehovahswitnessrecovery.com for plenty of other meembers input on your questions. The time you are spending now researching this group, that we were all involved with, WITHOUT BIAS, will show what they have done in the past. Psssst,.. Don't focus on their carrot they are dangling out infront of you, they do not control the carrot. Several of the comments you have made show that you are experiencing confirmation bias a bit, you cannot swallow the idea that these people are not telling you the truth. The people themselves can be very nice and I agree, they are nice. But this does not prevent them from being also douped.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-Jqc6zwyNs
Here is the first of a four part series explaining how the BITE model is used by the upper management of Jws to Keep you inside the group.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szHRlEQsPd4
You need to look at this group and their teachings as you were a person that had nothing to gain or lose by discovering the actual teachings and history about the group. Once you are buying into the carrot they dangle, it could be too late to see it from an unbiased condition.
Also check out this site. It shows other info to show if the Jws might be a cult group. Now remember that a group does not have to meet all the indicators to be considered a cult. Also understand that they will not be sharing this info and they will actually work toward preventing you from finding out this info by telling you not to look anywhere online except jw.org when researching the jws. BIG FLAG, a group should not be afraid of critical info about the group. The truth can stand on it's own, if it truly is the truth.
http://www.cultwatch.com/howcultswork.html
We really do want to see you through this research. Take you time and be sure to look up critical thinking to gain an understanding on how to work this out with as little bias as possible. I can see that you are already having a leaning toward buying into their beliefs and truly need to look into what we are saying.
Here is a video teaching some basics of critical thinking.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OLPL5p0fMg&list=TLNBGXiLZAo5OIbwLgRX0HNOeulz1DfXmr
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So...Assuming God exists, if he were on trial and you were the prosecutor, how would you present your case?
by androb31 infeel free to skip the intro down to the actual purpose of the thread lol!!.
i'm a born in, 32 years in and almost 6 out.
i've been out of the jw's since october of 2008. i came out due to a variety of factors, blood, historical roots, false teachings etc... my older sister helped me out back in 2008 and i subsequently helped my brother exit and the 3 of us became "born again" christians.. i've been mostly lurking but occasionally posting on jwn for around 5 years.
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Here is a movie about jus that from the Jews in WW2 prison camps.
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Million Now Living Will Never Die! - Rutherford could still be right
by Zoos inrutherford began the millions campaign in 1918. new light suggests that he was obviously talking about babies who were born that year and now, in 2014 they would only be 96 years old.. .
i was looking through a census bureau report on people aged 90+ in the united states 2006-2008, with projections to the year 2050. according to the chart provided there are about 2 million people just in the united states that are over 90 years old.
we could conservatively cut that number in half to reach the 96 year-olds and then add in the rest of the world's figures.. .
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Not that I believe it, and certainly this is not what the Judge menat, but seem to remember that it could be argued that those millions of people that died, could live again after being resurrected, and THEN NEVER DIE. IE this could be the "never die" that he was referring to.
Twisted spin on it but would not put it past some with high levels of dissonance.
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My Elderette is returning today to CONDUCT another conversation...
by Faithful Witness inshe has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.
i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.
this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.
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Tell them that your house has been officially and formally been turned into a church to reach those that Christ wants to save. The ask if they will join hands with you to help sanctify this new building that the LORD is using to bring ones into being "born again" etc etc throw as much Jesus Freak lingo in there as possible. This will prevent them coming back into your home.
Also for added effect, tell them that some in your group have noticed a aura around the building.
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"we must be ready to obey, even if it doesnt sound reasonable from a human standpoint"
by stuckinarut2 inso its now all clear!.
the reason why that damned wt article several months back said the quote:.
"we may be asked to do something by jehovahs organization, and we should be ready to obey even if it doesnt seem reasonable from a human standpoint or not".
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God will take care of our pets,..
God speaking "Hey Angel,..... yeah you!,.. Why don't you go down there to Earth and "take care of that pet" for me,..wink wink, if you know what I mean" tee hee
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The reason the Society keeps everyone busy with "campaigns"
by stuckinarut2 inim sure that many have had an experience where we try and keep little kids "occupied" while on a boring trip, such as a car ride or plane flight.. we come up with "games" like..."lets see how many green cars we can count", or "lets try and see who can sit still for the longest time".
"the winner gets a prize!".
obviously, until they are wise enough to cotton on, all we are doing is keeping them occupied to prevent them asking things like "are we there yet?!".
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The WTBTS should personally be held for global warming with all the wasted fossil fuels.
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New Atlanta Assembly Hall Has raised 3.4 million Dollars... GONE
by James Jackson inthey announced last week that the new atanta assembly hall has thus far raised 3.4 million dollars.
my local told that will become the society's come may 1. i wonder how that will go over with the ones who have been contributing to this fund..
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DD,..
How do you know about Ray Nagin, are you from the NO area?
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Letter Read At Special Talk
by scotoma inthe watchtower arranged to have a letter read announcing that elders would now be apponted by circuit overseers.. any elders on this forum know how this will be different from the current arrangement for appointing elders.. it would be nice to see a schematic with boxes showing how it used to be and how it will be in the future..
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I would think that if this is intended to be used as a shield for liability that it would only cover, if at all, the elders MS that have been appointed SINCE the change in procedure. So the ones that were appointed by the FDS pre Sept1 2014 would still be on the hook for any issues.
Or possibly do you think that after Sept 1 2014 and also after a CO visit, if one of the appointed men did something awry the WTBTS couls hang the blame on the CO for not removing the person, since it falls into his hand at that point in time.,
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Is my clinging on to a belief in a Creator doing me any harm?
by KateWild ini use the word clinging, as i feel that is what i am doing.
as far as my knowledge of science, namely chemistry is concerned, i am satisfied there is evidence of a creator.
i am happy to believe this.
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Here is a short 6 minutes or so video from Matt Dillahunty sharing why
Consequences Of False Beliefs can be a bad thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjbtzqPQwgE&list=WLpm8nvSyAV0VCEKSTIPvuyA&index=5