Posts by notjustyet

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A Little Direction Please

by Brian J in

i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".

notjustyet

Teach critical thinking skills using other topics such as buying a house, a car and any other "important decisions" in life.

Maybe then watch some of the Leah Remini show from last season and this one also. If you do this with her and they say something that parallels the WTBTS method of controlling members watch her body language to see if she responds to anything. Had a relative about 10 years old say "Wow,.. the Sea Org is like Bethel"

Its a very slow process as you have to make sure you don't set off a trip wire driving them back in deeper. Know when to back off and arguing isn't the way to get a person out of a cult,.. aka High Control Group. Use the Socratic method by asking questions that she will have to answer, if not out loud, to her self.

Welcome,.. embrace the word Apostate as its not what you think it is as the WTBTS wanted us to understand it. Its meaning is "changing ones belief" or something like that. Jesus would have been an apostate to the Jewish system.

I tried to argue with my wife initially and could see I was doing more damage than good so spent the money and had a telephone interview with Steven Hassan to figure out the correct way to help a person out. Money well spent as my family of 4 are out now.

Jesus and the "Two witness rule" and how the WTBTS thinks he feels about it.

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Conversation with an Exorcist

by TerryWalstrom in

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friends

starbucks exorcist______________.

location exterior : the patio of starbuckstime: 9 amcast:lou : media / news analyst, religious fundamentalistterry: gadfly, writer /crow apologist, big mouth know-it-alledgar the crow: spawn of satan________________.

our scene begins with two men at separate tables working on their laptops.lou is a man of about 60. he recently moved from new york to texas to start his own videography business.

notjustyet

Thanks,...

You have a talent,..don't bury it!!

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Conversation with an Exorcist

by TerryWalstrom in

jw
friends

starbucks exorcist______________.

location exterior : the patio of starbuckstime: 9 amcast:lou : media / news analyst, religious fundamentalistterry: gadfly, writer /crow apologist, big mouth know-it-alledgar the crow: spawn of satan________________.

our scene begins with two men at separate tables working on their laptops.lou is a man of about 60. he recently moved from new york to texas to start his own videography business.

notjustyet

Do you remember what was said or do you record it and transcribe it later?

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It's a trap!!

by notjustyet in

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Uninvited...again...

by Anders Andersen in

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friends

so a week or so ago we received an invitation for a jw friend's wedding anniversary party in the mail.it was addressed to 'the andersen family' (and not just mrs. andersen & baby andersen) which was pleasant of course, but not a huge surprise given the type of person who said friend is.. however, i already prepared myself to be uninvited after all.

some time ago, there was a congregation farewell party/get-together.to my surprise, i was invited too!

an elder specifically came over to my house to tell me.then some weeks later, he visited again, being terribly sorry but the invitation was revoked as the congregation got concerned over my possible presence.. with that debacle in mind, i wasn't surprised to receive a message from my friend 'hey are you at home?

notjustyet

My family and I had left back in 2011 and she had a family member getting married and I told my wife she will not be invited to the wedding. Initially she didn't receive an invitation so she called the mother of the girl getting married and asked if she was going to get one. (This is the short version, my wife asked in a very nice way, not demanding)

She said of course, it here but not mailed yet. So all is good. I reminded her that something will happen before it's all over.

Within a week of the wedding the bride to be asked to come over and talk and my wife and the girl went to talk in private and sure enough, was uninvited to the wedding due to "issues that may make the other guest uncomfortable and also her spiritual family would always be there for her even if her biological family wasn't etc"

The girl probably wanted my wife to be ther but I feel she was pressured to uninvited her as the arguments she used seemed above her and sounded like it was from higher up.

So wife is great about it and tells her she will always be here for her if she ever sees things differently etc etc.

Wife had previously told the bride to be that she wanted to purchase her a set of starter pots and pans etc for about 399.00 ish and that although now uninvited that she still would keep her word as she still loves her etc etc

Get this, after the uninvited the girl sends my wife a text with a link to a set of pots and pans for 500.00 + asking "What do you think about these?"

Wife said she thinks the 399.00 ones would work fine for her.

I asked her to give her a check, which she did, as I want to frame the check along with the revoked wedding invitation for reminders.

Wow,...

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Geoffrey Jackson's Golden Apple watch INVESTIGATED

by C0ntr013r in

i went through the original footage to get a good look at the watch.. from these pictures we can probably say that it is a apple watch and that it has a golden color.

the color on the pin is black, and the band is white, grey, silvery or beige.. .

the pin is in the exact place for it to be a apple watch.. only apple watch edition have the gold color.

notjustyet

Maybe it can be hacked. Hmmm

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News article on JW convention

by Sugar Shane in

hey, i've pasted below, a link to an article about the jw convention in the state of oklahoma, just sent to me by a jw relative.

according to their spokeman, it's the first one to be held this year.

he is also quick to mention all the 'persecution' in russia, while staying silent on the worldwide abuse, and shunning issues (a form of persecution in itself, imo).. if anyone would like to help me add to the comments section, it'd be appreciated.

notjustyet

Sugar shane

here is a link sharing a article about 1975.

http://jwsurvey.org/conventions/watchtower-whitewashes-failed-1975-prophecy-2017-convention-video

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Jehovah intervened in Russia

by Sour Grapes in

i saw the recent video that the borg put out about the trial in russia and how pleased the russian brothers were that a member of the gibbering booty, brother sanders, came to support them for six days.

well, there was a one-day delay in the trial which enabled the russian witnesses to have the memorial in their kingdom halls.

well, brother sanders was very quick to point out that it was very evident that jehovah intervened to enable the brothers to celebrate the memorial.

notjustyet

Would love to see what Hotel Sanderson was staying at, if he was staying st a Hotel, as I'd imagine it was classy.

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22,000 years of arctic ice cores melt, and wash the YHWH/JESUS concept down the sewer

by fulltimestudent in

the full story, as told in the uk guardian can be found at: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/apr/16/arctic-ice-cores-melt-university-alberta-canada.

and briefly it tells of an equipment failure at a storage facility for ice cores that had been extracted from the polar ice cap in various locations.. but note, that the layers of ice evident in the cores covered a period of 22,000 years.

and from the christian/jw perspective, that's impossible, for the bible story of the flood (verified by jesus and sundry other biblical writers) maintains that 4000+ years ago, the ice caps would have melted during the period when the earth was covered by the divinely caused deluge.

notjustyet

This was like only 160 or so years ago. Wouldn't there be some evidence if we had an ice age so recently?

It was the Swiss researcher Louis Agassiz who first determined that there had been an ice age back in the middle of the 19th century.