this is my first post.
as i am currently disfellowshipped, i have no one else to discuss these things with.
even if i was actively associated with the dubs, i suppose i'd still have no one else to discuss this with.
Welcome.
I love their claim that the Bible is scientifically accurate. Have them explain Genesis 1:9-14 which says that on the third creative day God made the green vegetation and on the fourth creative day, God made the sun.
Watchtower I believe still holds that the creative days were 7000 years or so long. So how does green vegetation survive in a climate without the sun? A tree can live roughly 6 months with no sun, not 7000 years. How can green vegetation form without sun to begin with?
well how's it going round your way?
massive increase of interested ones?
did you even know it was supposed to be happening?
Is this why the elduurrs have been trying to contact the wife and I recently? We have had two phone calls, a letter in the door and a stealth stop by while we were not home.
What a bunch of weirdos.
we are deeply indebted to wifibandit for such revealing documentation.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5690963588546560/november-1-2016-all-bodies-elders-re-using-maintaining-kingdom-halls.
incidents: .
38. when property damage occurs, quick action can go far in preventing further damage.
It's a wonder that the Elders with children don't see how hypocritical this is."Sure we'll call the police if someone vandalized a Kingdumb Hell or bugs us while engaging in the Failed Ministry but not when a child is molested or an adult is raped."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.
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Just recently discovered this progressive metal band Ascariasis. I believe they are a Canadian band. Good vocals and great technicals.
had a thought about the memorial observance that is held at the kingdumb hall every year.
there are a few youtube videos of people partaking of the bread and the wine and then making some grand speech before being escorted off the premises.
instead of that, has anyone tried getting a group of buddies together and when receiving the bread or the wine, just eat or drink it all?
Considering the number of victims this organization turns over it would seem justified in some cases to "give it back" as it were.
I would say even engaging them on the street would feed their persecution complex so what can a person do to open these people's eyes to how silly they are? It's hard to learn the truth about "The Lie", then sit idle waiting for it to collapse.
had a thought about the memorial observance that is held at the kingdumb hall every year.
there are a few youtube videos of people partaking of the bread and the wine and then making some grand speech before being escorted off the premises.
instead of that, has anyone tried getting a group of buddies together and when receiving the bread or the wine, just eat or drink it all?
In the back of my mind I was thinking that. Anything to bring on the persecution complex the dumbs have would be counter productive. Although I would love to see the look on their face if they couldn't complete the memorial because of a lack of bread and wine.
had a thought about the memorial observance that is held at the kingdumb hall every year.
there are a few youtube videos of people partaking of the bread and the wine and then making some grand speech before being escorted off the premises.
instead of that, has anyone tried getting a group of buddies together and when receiving the bread or the wine, just eat or drink it all?
Had a thought about the memorial observance that is held at the kingdumb hall every year.
There are a few YouTube videos of people partaking of the bread and the wine and then making some grand speech before being escorted off the premises.
Instead of that, has anyone tried getting a group of buddies together and when receiving the bread or the wine, just eat or drink it all? Just empty the plate or the cup. And if they have extra and refill the plate, have someone else in another row do the same thing. Have friends pickled throughout the hall that are willing to empty the plate or the cup.
Now I imaging that by doing so that person would be escorted off the premises, so there would have to be a few people sitting throughout willing to do it.
I don't know, just a thought.
we all know that education is severely demonized in this religion.
and that the elders are appointed based on how many meetings they attend, hours they put in on the ministry and general attitude to other elders (as apposed to, you know, actual theological training and counseling) - so my question is, what were your elders occupations outside the kingdom hall?.
in my old congregation our elders consisted of:.
Most were auto workers or machinists. One owned several rental properties. Another was a fire chief. And the oldest elder I swear by his dress was a pimp.
there continues to be more and more rumors of more halls being sold off some even taking the first offer.
the borg trying to get thier bond money back from the court in san diego asap and there's been elders meetings about this consolidation.
my questions is why after selling off all this real estate in new york for over a billion dollars are they still acting like thier broke?
What I don't understand is what they will do once they sell off all these properties they currently have? They tried for a good year and a half to sell the kingdumb hall that I used to attend and nobody wanted it, either because they were asking way too much or because it didn't have a functioning kitchen.
These law suits are not going away if they keep their current policies and sooner or later (hopefully sooner) they are going to run out of things to sell.
It's pretty obvious as previous posters have stated that they are trying to become an E-entity. The lack of physical publications is quite telling as to their financial state.
jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.
they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.
they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?
All I know is they deny the Christ by not partaking of the bread and the wine. They basically unknowingly say "No" to the flesh and blood of Christ. Therefore they are not saved according to their belief. They also choose and organization over Christ.
But honestly I could give a crap. They prove by their works they are not Christians by the way they treat outsiders and those who choose to leave the organization.
