Just now listening to this.
I noticed in at around the 1:15 mark he uses the term, "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses."
Is this an old term? I was born in for the last 35+ years, and I don't remember this term being used ever.
so manipulaitve.
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http://www.printcentralandsigns.com/jwtalks/covisits/sinutko%20charles%20-%20is%20it%20proper%20to%20have%20doubts.mp3.
Just now listening to this.
I noticed in at around the 1:15 mark he uses the term, "Jehovah's Christian Witnesses."
Is this an old term? I was born in for the last 35+ years, and I don't remember this term being used ever.
hey guys.
my grandpa died recently, for a reason i told my jw friends about it.
and they literally didn't say anything about it at moved on to another subject like nothing happened.
i have read the site with great interest over the last few weeks.
some interesting stuff thats for sure.. i have left the jehovah's witnesses (was almost going to say the 'truth') for some time now.
i was one of the lucky ones that was baptised then faded, no humiliating disfellowshipping but nonetheless was very hard to get myself out.
ever had this thought about an upcoming movie?.
and then i would feel guilty for putting my entertainment desires ahead of god's kingdom.. .
shameless!.
Oh man, when I heard about the prequels back in the 90's I said that. "1999? 2002? 2005? The new system will be here by then. WHYYYYYYYY?!?!?"
Of course then I saw the Prequels and because of Jar Jar, I wished Armageddon had come so I wouldn't have been so disappointed with George Lucas adulteration of my childhood dreams.
hello,.
this is a question for people with web knowledge (i'm looking at you simon :-)):.
i'm wondering why they named it tv.jw.org instead of something like jw.org/tv?.
I'm trying to explain this in layman's terms.
tv.jw.org is considered a "subdomain."
A Domain Name Server (DNS) is a computer that tells your web browser where to find the information for that URL you typed in.
You can tell the DNS to point people that type in to tv.jw.org to a certain computer (server).
However, if someone types in jw.org/tv, everything contained on jw.org/tv is on the same server as everything else on jw.org.
Video takes up a lot of disk space and bandwidth. They likely needed to have a separate server for the traffic to tv.jw.org which is why it wouldn't be possible to make it jw.org/tv.
christ, my mind feels f***ed.
there is so many layers of indoctrination and rules and regulations in this, whatever this is (religion?
cult?
campaign of hate:
I am going through the same thing as you. I'm still active, I even give opening prayer at the meetings occasionally. That's the hardest. Gritting your teeth and going through the motions because you're not ready to show your cards.
I was feeling really crazy and messed up last week. I feel different this week. Do you know why?
I made an appointment with a therapist. I need to talk verbally to someone about these dilemmas, even if they just listen. I need to get it out in the open.
This forum helps, but it's not the same as saying it out loud.
Once I made that appointment, even though it's not for a couple weeks, I felt a million times better because I knew I'd be able to talk to someone in confidence without fear of being judged.
the movie american sniper is breaking box office records and of course there is some irony that a movie about a sniper is released on martin luther king day (who was shot by one).. but of course there is a world of difference between an assassin and a military sniper ... or is there?.
some are making a big stink about it and claiming that "snipers are cowards".
it seems unfair to me.
so i have gotten into arguements with my wife in the past about this cult.
now a days after reading steve hassan books...i just try and avoid anything jdub with her.
try to keep her in authentic mode..(not sure she really has one).
I think the group here has the right idea. I would just approach it gently.
Perhaps just say, "I agree. James was correct. Can you show me from the context of where he said this what works he was referring to?"
in only the short time i have been no longer lurking but also posting, i have discovered some people with situations and reactions very similar to mine.
i guess there are different ways people get out, some do something and are outright shunned, then they may find ttatt and stay out.
but there may be more and more like me, who are 100% mentally out, but for the reason of not losing spouse and family fade.
Honestly, it feels to me like the stages of grief.
1. Denial and Isolation - it's hard to believe it's true that you were deceived all those years. You withdraw into yourself.
2. Anger - you get pissed because of being so stupid and because others are being deceived. You want to shout it from the rooftops.
3. Bargaining - you try to see if you can keep living the lie to keep family and friends. Maybe you think you can still be a witness and just ignore what you don't agree with.
4. Depression - you start hating yourself because you're living a lie. Perhaps you're teaching things you don't believe. You feel like a hypocrite and get a really low self esteem. You don't know if you can go on living this way.
5. Acceptance- you finally accept the fact that this religion is based on lies and accept that you can move on and it doesn't control your life anymore.
Now I haven't been through all these stages, but it certainly feels like I'm experiencing some of them.
right now, i feel like my mind is at war with itself.. on the one side is reason, logic.. on the other is tradition, hope and fear.. reason and logic are challenging life-long beliefs.
they are telling me, "is this any more believable than the story of the lord of the rings?".
certain doctrines of my belief system are crumbling.. my mind still wants to hold on to the belief in a creator, his son jesus and the bible.
I have children. I knew ttatt and I didn't want them to feel pressured to get baptized. I didn't want them to miss out on the joys of childhood I knew they should be experiencing.
I have kids myself. They're real little. But my wife and I both agree that we got baptized too young.
If it comes to it, I'm not going to tell them they can't get baptized. Everyone has to make their own decisions and I'm going to let them choose their own life. But I certainly won't let them get baptized before they're 18. My wife told me the other day, "If you're not legally old enough to make a decision about getting married until you're 17 or 18, then you're definitely not old enough to make a decision about baptism either."
Hopefully I'll be able to orchestrate a family fade before the kids are too indoctrinated.
When they're older, I'll make sure they know both sides to the story about the so-called "Truth" and they can make their decision then.