Posts by CoonDawg

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Do you become empty inside after leaveing the witness's?

by PinTail in

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i find myself feeling empty inside sense drifting away after my being shuned, and my divorce from my wife who was a witness, and after my daughter had been molested by a stupid brother in the hall that my ex-wife started living with after my becoming disabled.

i am newly married now to a good women who is not a witness, but she is honest and kind to me and understands what i have been through, but still i feel a empty somewhere in side of me.

of note during this time of pain, i fell hit my head and lost a major portion of my brain which left me disabled, and very emotional at times feeling like all is lost, i just can't throw it.

CoonDawg

Shane, it's good that you have a loving wife. I've found that my wife is my biggest pillar of support...what we have together is far and away better than anything that I could get at the hall. I too, know how it is to have a child sexually abused and to have it blown off by elders. I've been there. I have found that immersing myself in things that I want to do has helped...and meeting new people. I took lots of time to really feel like meeting new people and making friends...but it's definitely been worth it. I have been involved in a local car club and have made some great friends. The people I care most about who are still JW's (my wife and my mother) still care for me even though they may not LIKE the choices I've made, but they do have a sense of understanding WHY I've made the choices I have. They won't turn their backs on me...and that makes all the difference.

Get involved. Take up hobbies that include other people...and treasure the time you spend with your wife and try to hang in there for your daughter.

Ern

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Using Movies to stimulate witnesses independent thinking

by Prins Vaillant in

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today i have seen the movie ?pleasantville?.

two young people get absorbed into a 50?s tv-soap.

all is black and white.

CoonDawg

Granted, it's more geared to be a jab at catholicism, I love Kevin Smith's movie "Dogma" because it helps illustrate how people get so caught up in jumping through manmade hoops that they forget the reason why religion is supposed to be appealing. My JW wife even loves this movie. One of our favorite lines is that many "mourn their faith rather than celebrate it." Sure, it's irreverent and funny, but it's also thought provoking on a certain level. Of course not "good" JW's would go to see this R rated movie.

I too, loved pleasantville. Thinking outside the box and stepping out of normalcy is what makes life colorful...not simply satisfying others expectations. The best scene is when the man comes home and says "And WHERE's my DINNER?"

Ern

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Michael Moore where are you!

by mkr32208 in

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not that i like him but he does know how to sway the masses!

anybody know how we could get him to do a documentry about the wbts?

CoonDawg

I think in part that why Michael Moore's movies have such a broad appeal is because they encompass the widest range of emotions. How many "documentaries" (and I use the word loosely) actually contain humor (unless it's about a comedian)? That's part of the appeal...the way he shows the ridiculousness of those he's centered on. To be truthfull, documentaries are SUPPOSED to be impartial...but there's always a person behind the camera and someone in the cutting room doing the editing.

I've thought of contacting Moore to see if he'd be interested in a WBTS movie...but I doubt it's "sexy" enough to appeal to someone whos priorities seem to be more in the socio-political vein.

Ern

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Why do end-of-time beliefs endure? Good article!

by Dogpatch in

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the end of the world .

a brief history.

dec 16th 2004 .

CoonDawg

In an effort to understand this mindset, I actually have started reading the "Left Behind" series by Tim LaHaye and his co-writer Jerry Jenkins. The first thing that struck me was the remedial and juvenille way that the books are written, as if to appeal to the less educated. Every time I really think about it, I find it amazing that so many can take these prophecies so literally. I for one, think that these are just good allegorical stories to teach a lesson...but try telling that to a rabid evangellical christian. These books have sold tens of millions, so I guess there's lots out there that buy into this whole thing.

Ern

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Who are these idiots? Re: Scott Peterson Trial

by IronGland in

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these arent family members according to the caption, they're just people waiting outside the courtroom when the sentence was announced.

their faces show they have some major emotional investment in this trial.

the man even appears to be praying.

CoonDawg

I'm amazed that more people don't see that all this is is a distraction from the really important things that are going on in the US. I'm amazed when this is presented in the national news as if people in other countries give a rat's a$$ about some spoiled punk who offed his wife and kids to get a clean start with some chic he was boinking. God forbid they'd actually have to give a thought to issues like 40 million plus without healthcare, kids who are unwanted, a war in another country against people who never had anything to do with a terrorist attack on us, or the criminal organization of radical christian fundamentalists who have hijacked our country...nope, we have to keep watching some pretty boy on trial so that we can't concentrate and maybe really get pissed at our being screwed over.

Ern

(who other than incidental content in the headlines wasted ZERO time on this a-hole's trial)

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What did you pray for when you were a JW?

by JH in

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did you pray for health, even if you knew that only in the new system your health would get better.... did you pray for a bible study?.

did you pray not to be tempted by the debil?

CoonDawg

In my more emotional periods, I prayed to be forgiven for not living up to the impssible standards. Only a few of my prayers were heartfelt and those were to be counted worthy of being around god's real servants. I pretty much always felt inadequate and really had esteem issues.

Finally, my prayers were ritualistic and very routine. They got to where they meant nothing to me...and that was way before I stopped going to the hall. My public prayers sounded good, but were also repetative. Most recently, my prayers were for my wife's benifit over a meal...but only out of respect for her. Once she realized this, she hasn't asked me to pray aloud since. Kind of a relief actually.

Ern

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Court tomorrow.... wise advice is appreciated.

by formerout in

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just a quick run-down for those who haven't followed my court case so far: .

my ex and i have joint custody but primary residence is with her.

she has broken a bunch of the orders that the judge made.

CoonDawg

I can sympathize. I've been in a protracted custody dispute from long distance. My ex moved our daughter with her to Illinois and I live in Tennessee. She, for the past 3 years, has been guilty of denying my visits, moving without my permission or that of the court and is now trying to attain sole legal and physical custody. It's been going on for a long time and she has really not even gotten a slap on the wrists for her infractions. I don't really have any advice for you other than to remain calm and respectful. Appearing reasonable is a great ally. I don't know how your state is, but in Illinois you have to have a child advocate lawyer who is supposed to represent the best interests of the child. It's never a bad thing to appear reasonable and open to some compromise to them. There are no guarantees, so be prepared for a letdown, but hope for a victory and that it really is the best for your child.

I'll be rooting for you.

Ern

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The Christianity Of Dubya

by Englishman in

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george w bush is a god fearing christian, he says.. george w believes in pre-emptive strikes.. so why didn't god make a pre-emptive strike against satan before he got his claws into adam & eve and save us all of this hassle?.

englishman..

CoonDawg

When I hear of dubya and christianity in the same thought, I can't help but see the irony of it all. I mean, here's a dude who preaches being a follower of Christ, the "turn the other cheek" guy...the "as you treat the least of these my brothers" guy....you have a man who is arrogant rather than humble, a man who is vengeful rather than forgiving, a man who sees rich people and big business as being far and away more important than regular citizens, a man who looks on learned people with disdain, a man who, like Absalom of old, seems to revel in surrounding himself with yes-men (and women) rather than people who may give a straight answer and opinion that may differ with his.

Dubya doesn't even belong to any kind of church though he seems to expect the rest of us to. He ran on "values" and "moral issues" yet he discards those he doesn't want to acknowledge as moral issues. He is a man that I despise and I am ashamed to the rest of the world to have this devious hypocritical petulent-child-like man as our "leader". Down with the A-hole blowmonkey memeber of the Cheney Death-cult.

Ern

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Do you and your significant other share religious beliefs?

by MelbaToast in

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sometimes, i think my husband is much more church oriented than i am.

i still get upset when i attend church, but lately he has been putting the push on me for us to go back to his church where he grew up in.

he would like to start taking our daughter so she has a somewhat structured religious belief.

CoonDawg

My wife is a "liberal" JW and I am one who just doesn't "do" church anymore. She loves many of the illicit things that I do like getting freaky and talking nasty. She says I'm her "favorite Heathen", so I guess I'm alright. We don't talk alot about beliefs, but when we do, She wonders how "someone like you can be so smart and not belive in the bible" and I wonder at her "how can someone so smart still be a JW?"

I told her that though I love her very very much, I will not go to meetings. It would piss me off and thereby ruin the experience for her and I'm not setting out to "deconvert" her. I have gone to ONE assembly with her the year before last. This year I dodged it by making a trip out of it to visit my parents. She went to the assembly with my JW mom and enjoyed herself...I went to the beach and to Hooters with my ex-JW dad and also had a great time. Hey, everybody left happy.

Ern

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Raised in the Truth vs. New Converts

by prophecor in

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while viewing many of your experiences here, its strange to hear the problems that have resulted from many of you being in " the truth ".

i'm speaking with regard to those who've been in most of their lives and have never really known much else.

when i finally came in i had spent a majority of my life, doing the things of the world.

CoonDawg

My wife was an adult when she began studying...alone in a new town with a new baby...Ripe for the pickin'.

I however, was raised as a 3rd generation witness. My wife is still "in" but can fully understand my reasons for leaving...even though at the present she hopes it's temporary. She and I both see the vast difference in our situations. I chuckle at her because of her relative age "in da troof"...and she laughs at my awakening as an individual. This was my first year being politically active...she said "Oh, I remember being like that when I was a freshman in college."

I agree that when a person raised in it leaves...it's a totally new experience. You have to really take time to find out who you really are. I think that's why some go hawg wild for a time...then they settle into the identity that they've found for themselves.

Ern