Posts by nowaytess

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Why the watchtower will fall.

by sleepy in

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because every thing made by jehovahs witnesses is so shoddily made its bound to collapse.

our kingdom hall was falling apart all the time.

thats what happens when you use the untrained witness slaves to build everything in order to save money.they build a pile of crap.edited by - sleepy on 16 june 2002 7:7:51.

I know Dateline sired a few weeks ago. Have you seen any mass protesting of Kingdom Hall or the public getting very upset over the fact pedophiles are not only allowed a good standing, but stand at their door? NO real newspaper or press articles. It is like the whole matter dropped. Sadly, the answer is no. Yet, we still hear about the pedophile priest scandel on a daily basis.

I do take in the factor there are more "Catholics" than Jehovah's Witness in the USA. If you compare the aveage Catholic ( most just go to church and realy don't care) to the average Jehovah's Witness (many who are raised or just joined) have more dedication to the Religion than the average Catholic.

Try to remeber the average person know very little about Jehovah's Witnesses, but yet respects the religion. Yep in teh Df policy is respected as "tolerating no shit from it's parishnor's" Many average people belive many XJWS are disgrunteld or deserved to be Df'd. That is right beliveing they JW must have done something wrong. Just ask many people with out being bias and that is what they think. so the Jehovah's Witness have worked very hard to maintain it's image.

Most rank-in-file Jehovah's witness are taking one of three stands:

1) Most are defending the Watcthower in a very zealous way. Sad, but true. Most are blaming the vicitms in those who are sticking up for them with being weak. Or those congregations for being weak. The Governing Body know this very fact.

In fact they will feed upon it. Just like Hitler took advantage of a humilated and defeated Germany. Hitler could not have excuted 6 million Jews and 4 million undesirables by himself. He knew the German were weak and pride was hurt. So for years he not only brought out promises to the Germans but accualy carried them out.

So the Watcthower will use the Dateline incident. In the minds of most JWS (even the Zealous ones) this is the humilationg defeat. It is inconceivable in mind of the average Jehovah's Wintess could happen in Jehovah's Organizations. As they JW feel the heat they anger will grow. In the next year I would Watch the Watcthower and local talks by elder assigned by the GB. Also the circut assemblies and the District Convetntions. Next's years Drama's done will be wehre most of the mid set will take place.

2) Some are getting sick of the defense policies and are walking out or writing the society. Any decention will be viewed as a threat. For now the leaders are taking note of the backlash. They need to gauge it from the rank-in-file JW. The leadership will deal with those people later.

Soon even if you are an active JW and even squawk aobut the leadership you will be Df'd. With the blessing of the rank-in-file JW. for thow who are cleansed out of the organizations, in a ferver not seen in a long time.

3) The JW who is paralized by the whole thing. They are going to have to make a choice. Even if it is in silence they will make a choice. No choice will be choice.

It ok if you disagree with me. Just don't be so disgrunteld to see what is true and what really lies ahead for the Watcthower. It's not going to collapse but get stronger and more respected over time.

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Why the watchtower will fall.

by sleepy in

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because every thing made by jehovahs witnesses is so shoddily made its bound to collapse.

our kingdom hall was falling apart all the time.

thats what happens when you use the untrained witness slaves to build everything in order to save money.they build a pile of crap.edited by - sleepy on 16 june 2002 7:7:51.

nowaytess

Sorry guys, I have to sorely disagree with all of you here. The Watcthower will not fail, in fact will suceed which will even impress it's enemies.

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APB on Beacon, NY Apostate Truck Driver

by zenpunk in

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three days ago i was getting off at the beacon exit on route 84 and next to me there was a truck with a banner across the back.

i was so intrigued that i backed up so i could see it better.

it said "is the watchtower, brooklyn guilty of adultery?

nowaytess

I did a magnectic sign for my website for my car. It only cost me $10.00. At least you can remove the sign when necessary.

I would have love to have seen it.

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What are some of the lousiest jobs out there?

by Soledad in

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i think that any job that involves customer service or dealing with the public really sucks!

i used to be a bank teller for 4 years, i finally got fired for letting this one obnoxious customer really have it!

some of the worst type of customers were the ones who left their brains who knows where.

nowaytess

Ok, I have a worse job than you do.

It is worse than customer service at the bank.

In fact my JW training accualy helped me for my job. I guess just be abused at the doors for all those years did help me keep my cool.

I am the one person whom you don't want caling your home. If you have bounced too many checks. What do you think I do?

I get paid wel for what I do, if I screw up I could get sued. Basicaly, dead beat can say anything to you and you can't so squat, but if I mess up I can be sued. Just think dead beats can get away with a lot in this country. All I do is just try to collect what is owed.

Most of the time time most these guys just go file bankruptcy anyways. Especailly of they way over their head.

Guess if you know what I do all day?

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Pending Tragedy for the WTS and JWs

by Lee Elder in

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pending tragedy for the wts and jws.

the heavy-handed tactics of the leaders of the watchtower society have begun to bear rotten fruit.

i suspect that it is just a matter of time before the need arises to coin some phrase to describe disfellowshipped or disassociated jehovah's witnesses who bomb conventions, shoot up kingdom halls or even attack bethel facilities.. leaders of the wts (and local elders) should stop and think about the lessons to be learned from columbine high school, the postal service (i.e.

nowaytess

Tex,

I personally belived for a long time the Leadership has been waiting for an issue to present to the rank-in-file JW to justify what Leadership wants to do all along, Start a cleansing of all decenters, rebellious one, thosw how dare question the leadership.

Dateline has provided it. It will begin to divide the Jehovah's Witness in 3 ways;

1] Many JWS will defend the JWS policy and blame the victims. In fact I have read of those who were on the show as being weak, rebellious or we have not heard the real side of the story. SAdly many are defending the Watchtower.

2} Many may try to stand up to the leadership or just leave. It will strike the concesince as wrong and do something about it. Any who take action will be Df'd per order of the Governing Body with no exceptions.

3] Know the what is going on is wrong but are paralyised. Their whole world is going to collapse and may just stay. It is all they know.

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JWs , Preaching, & The US Supreme Court

by ChiChiMama in

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here is an interesting article for your veiwing pleasure.. * http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/azstar/20020608/lo/case_holds_interest_of_jehovah_s_witnesses_1.html.

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nowaytess

I don't have a problem with a religious group at least being regestered. I like to have a piece of mind knowing I can retarace they groups and thier permits. Being a woman and homeowner, I like to know who is there. Plus, there are homeinvader out there who can just pick up a watchtower and pretend to be a Witness just to gain entry.

Why? There are just too many creepy things going on out there. I don't mean it should apply to JWS only. but all group who evangleize door-to-door.

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Pending Tragedy for the WTS and JWs

by Lee Elder in

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friends

pending tragedy for the wts and jws.

the heavy-handed tactics of the leaders of the watchtower society have begun to bear rotten fruit.

i suspect that it is just a matter of time before the need arises to coin some phrase to describe disfellowshipped or disassociated jehovah's witnesses who bomb conventions, shoot up kingdom halls or even attack bethel facilities.. leaders of the wts (and local elders) should stop and think about the lessons to be learned from columbine high school, the postal service (i.e.

nowaytess

I agree with you to some extent.

Personally, I feel the Dateline show will be the issue which Watchtower will use to justfy mass disfellowshipping in the Organization.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/nowaytess

With a massive disfellowshipping may spawn some the behaviors mention.

I don't think you post is going to encourge anyone to do any of these acts. I belive the JWS or XJWS if they decide to do some of the desperate acts it will be for other reasons.

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Why is Jehovah allowing his name to be disgraced?

by IslandWoman in

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jehovah's name, the very name associated with jehovah's witnesses is being disgraced, trampled upon as never before in the organization's history!!.

in the past jehovah's witnesses have been reproached for standing up in defense of jehovah and his word.

jehovah's name was sanctified at all costs and it appears from their history books that jehovah was making a good name for himself by means of their integrity.

nowaytess

Just got this from Troy of JaH Christians. I have to agree with the
fact these guys are not too bright, acually admit to the fact they
are covering up molestation cases. I think they allowing us to see
what is in store for JWS who decent next and to justify it. I don't
think these guys are so stupid this letter will be all over the
Internet in an hour or so.

WATCHTOWER'S LETTER TO DATELINE NBC: Drafuse writes "It's amazing to
read this letter. When the issue in question is pedophiles inside the
Jehovah's Witnesses congregations, Director J.R. Brown talks
about "views and opinions [that] should be heard within the framework
of the congregation". Everyone can understand this is a painful story
for the Watchtower, but writing a letter to NBC Dateline that proves
the Watchtower is actually doing all they can to cover up these
cases, is absolutely fantastic. We have never regarded J.R. Brown and
his fellow "brothers" in "Office of Public Information" extremely
smart - but we did not think they were this stupid either! Here is
the letter:"

February 7, 2002

Richard Greenberg
Dateline NBC
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112

Dear Mr. Greenberg:

I am writing in response to your invitation for an on-camera
interview on upcoming Dateline NBC telecast. Thank you for the
opportunity to participate; we appreciate your efforts to be fair and
balanced. As you know, we have endeavoured to cooperate with you and
your staff as you worked to put the program together.

Regarding your request for a spokesperson, we recently brought before
the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, and they respectfully
declined, as it would appear to pit brother against brother and this
is not the Christian way to resolve differences. We do not feel that
a nationwide television program is the forum in which to discuss
differences in viewpoint between members of our religion. In this
situation, you have related to us that your participants are
primarily individuals who still regards themselves as Jehovah's
Witnesses. We therefore do not view them as adversaries, but as
individuals whose views and opinions should be heard within the
framework of the congregation, or church, and not in front of a
nationwide television audience. This would be in harmony with what
the apostle Paul admonished, as recorded in the Bible at 1
Corinthians 1:10, "that you should all speak in agreement, and that
there should not be divisions among you, but that you be fitly united
in the same mind and in the same line of thought." Our Governing Body
is willing to resolve differences of opinion within the framework of
the congregation and according to Scriptural principles.

This is not to say that Jehovah's Witnesses are opposed to the idea
of on-camera interviews in general; however, it is not felt
appropriate in this circumstance. Again, we want to thank you for
your invitation, and we ask that you understand our reasons for not
accepting it.

Sincerely

J.R Brown
Director
Office of Public Information

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Why is Jehovah allowing his name to be disgraced?

by IslandWoman in

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friends

jehovah's name, the very name associated with jehovah's witnesses is being disgraced, trampled upon as never before in the organization's history!!.

in the past jehovah's witnesses have been reproached for standing up in defense of jehovah and his word.

jehovah's name was sanctified at all costs and it appears from their history books that jehovah was making a good name for himself by means of their integrity.

nowaytess

They have been wanting to do it for a long time. Dateline special is the 911 for the Watchtower. I know many JWS saw they show, it had one of the three effects;

1) IT is only their side of the story. There is something not being told. Basically every one in the piece is a liar or against "Jehovah and his Organization"

2) Many know it is the Truth and will confronot to make changes. Unfortuatly they will be the ultimate price, Disfellowshipping.

3) Paralazation. A good person with common sense and reason will now be confronted with the issue, Is the Watchtower Jehovah's Organization. I don't see the regular rank-in-file Cathloic and other denomiations defend their pedophile clergy. Even th e Pope held a confrence, even though it did not bring much change.

All the Gb is doing is disfellowshipping the victims or those who assit them or are trying to bring about change.
Personaly, I believe they are the False Prophet of Rev 19:20 which everyone who reads the bible is looking for.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/nowaytess

I feel after a good org cleansing you are going to see a new breed of JW like many have never seen before. Very millitant and listen to the org even if Bible bears it unscriputal or past all common sense.

Wt can't contorl the internet. One threat the Internet brings is the freeflow of communication. It has cause a lot of damage long before Dateline.

Plus many JWS can air their greivance without fear of retaliation. I don't think even the Gb relised how many disgruntled JWS are really out there.

Let's not forget the many support groups which are now banded together because of the Internet.

Bottom line, they need to justify what they are about to do (mass disfellowhsipping) It is going to keep the avegae rank-in-file JW not only in line but scared into obedience. Plsu with many new technologies, the JWS in headquaters can track the decneters down give order to Df at all cost.

Many scandels about the Jehovah's Witness have been brought out via Internet. Hitler letters, Un, pedophiles are a few which the Internet has brought to light. Older memebers are not on line as much, but younger witnesses are.

To keep new ones in line, you got to do something. Why change something that has been effective now? Disfellowshipping has been the most effective means to keep decneters in line.

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Why is Jehovah allowing his name to be disgraced?

by IslandWoman in

jw
friends

jehovah's name, the very name associated with jehovah's witnesses is being disgraced, trampled upon as never before in the organization's history!!.

in the past jehovah's witnesses have been reproached for standing up in defense of jehovah and his word.

jehovah's name was sanctified at all costs and it appears from their history books that jehovah was making a good name for himself by means of their integrity.

nowaytess

I hate to break your heart, but no edvidence that Jehovah was ever supporting these guys. These guys have brought disgrace amonst themsleves.

I just feel the organization is getting ready to cleanse all decenters. The Dateline special is just going to be an excuse for the Governing Body to do what they have been wanting to do for a long time. Get rid of all who dare defy the Governing Body and the Watcthower leadership. I am sure they will carefully in next year lay the groundwork in justfying the disfellowhipping in a massive way. The Governing Body must lay the ground work so the rank-in-file JW will accept something so horrendus as a mass disfellowshiping all over the world.

Let the witch hunt begin!

http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/nowaytess

How else can you justify a mass df'd all over the world in the organization?