Posts by nowaytess

  • Lee Elder
    57

    Pending Tragedy for the WTS and JWs

    by Lee Elder in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    pending tragedy for the wts and jws.

    the heavy-handed tactics of the leaders of the watchtower society have begun to bear rotten fruit.

    i suspect that it is just a matter of time before the need arises to coin some phrase to describe disfellowshipped or disassociated jehovah's witnesses who bomb conventions, shoot up kingdom halls or even attack bethel facilities.. leaders of the wts (and local elders) should stop and think about the lessons to be learned from columbine high school, the postal service (i.e.

    1. IslandWoman
    2. nowaytess
    3. You Know
  • nowaytess
    nowaytess

    I have not given them any ideas, I am sure they are just getting ready to grease up the Pr machine.

    The leadeship think militarliy, so while the average JWS is in despair, it will be time to condtion them. Remeber the world does not care and the JW does not trust the world, so who do you think the Watcthower is going to pay attention to?

  • sleepy
    26

    Why the watchtower will fall.

    by sleepy in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    because every thing made by jehovahs witnesses is so shoddily made its bound to collapse.

    our kingdom hall was falling apart all the time.

    thats what happens when you use the untrained witness slaves to build everything in order to save money.they build a pile of crap.edited by - sleepy on 16 june 2002 7:7:51.

    1. crawdad2
    2. nowaytess
    3. NotBlind
  • nowaytess
    nowaytess

    Let me ask you a very stupid Question.

    I know Dateline sired a few weeks ago. Have you seen any mass protesting of Kingdom Hall or the public getting very upset over the fact pedophiles are not only allowed a good standing, but stand at their door? NO real newspaper or press articles. It is like the whole matter dropped. Sadly, the answer is no. Yet, we still hear about the pedophile priest scandel on a daily basis.

    I do take in the factor there are more "Catholics" than Jehovah's Witness in the USA. If you compare the aveage Catholic ( most just go to church and realy don't care) to the average Jehovah's Witness (many who are raised or just joined) have more dedication to the Religion than the average Catholic.

    Try to remeber the average person know very little about Jehovah's Witnesses, but yet respects the religion. Yep in teh Df policy is respected as "tolerating no shit from it's parishnor's" Many average people belive many XJWS are disgrunteld or deserved to be Df'd. That is right beliveing they JW must have done something wrong. Just ask many people with out being bias and that is what they think. so the Jehovah's Witness have worked very hard to maintain it's image.

    Most rank-in-file Jehovah's witness are taking one of three stands:

    1) Most are defending the Watcthower in a very zealous way. Sad, but true. Most are blaming the vicitms in those who are sticking up for them with being weak. Or those congregations for being weak. The Governing Body know this very fact.

    In fact they will feed upon it. Just like Hitler took advantage of a humilated and defeated Germany. Hitler could not have excuted 6 million Jews and 4 million undesirables by himself. He knew the German were weak and pride was hurt. So for years he not only brought out promises to the Germans but accualy carried them out.

    So the Watcthower will use the Dateline incident. In the minds of most JWS (even the Zealous ones) this is the humilationg defeat. It is inconceivable in mind of the average Jehovah's Wintess could happen in Jehovah's Organizations. As they JW feel the heat they anger will grow. In the next year I would Watch the Watcthower and local talks by elder assigned by the GB. Also the circut assemblies and the District Convetntions. Next's years Drama's done will be wehre most of the mid set will take place.

    2) Some are getting sick of the defense policies and are walking out or writing the society. Any decention will be viewed as a threat. For now the leaders are taking note of the backlash. They need to gauge it from the rank-in-file JW. The leadership will deal with those people later.

    Soon even if you are an active JW and even squawk aobut the leadership you will be Df'd. With the blessing of the rank-in-file JW. for thow who are cleansed out of the organizations, in a ferver not seen in a long time.

    3) The JW who is paralized by the whole thing. They are going to have to make a choice. Even if it is in silence they will make a choice. No choice will be choice.

    It ok if you disagree with me. Just don't be so disgrunteld to see what is true and what really lies ahead for the Watcthower. It's not going to collapse but get stronger and more respected over time.

    http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/nowaytess

  • sleepy
    26

    Why the watchtower will fall.

    by sleepy in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    because every thing made by jehovahs witnesses is so shoddily made its bound to collapse.

    our kingdom hall was falling apart all the time.

    thats what happens when you use the untrained witness slaves to build everything in order to save money.they build a pile of crap.edited by - sleepy on 16 june 2002 7:7:51.

    1. crawdad2
    2. nowaytess
    3. NotBlind
  • nowaytess
    nowaytess

    Sorry guys, I have to sorely disagree with all of you here. The Watcthower will not fail, in fact will suceed which will even impress it's enemies.

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  • zenpunk
    10

    APB on Beacon, NY Apostate Truck Driver

    by zenpunk in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    three days ago i was getting off at the beacon exit on route 84 and next to me there was a truck with a banner across the back.

    i was so intrigued that i backed up so i could see it better.

    it said "is the watchtower, brooklyn guilty of adultery?

    1. DakotaRed
    2. umtiger
    3. rmayer32
  • nowaytess
    nowaytess

    I did a magnectic sign for my website for my car. It only cost me $10.00. At least you can remove the sign when necessary.

    I would have love to have seen it.

  • Soledad
    16

    What are some of the lousiest jobs out there?

    by Soledad in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    i think that any job that involves customer service or dealing with the public really sucks!

    i used to be a bank teller for 4 years, i finally got fired for letting this one obnoxious customer really have it!

    some of the worst type of customers were the ones who left their brains who knows where.

    1. RR
    2. nowaytess
    3. Reborn2002
  • nowaytess
    nowaytess

    Ok, I have a worse job than you do.

    It is worse than customer service at the bank.

    In fact my JW training accualy helped me for my job. I guess just be abused at the doors for all those years did help me keep my cool.

    I am the one person whom you don't want caling your home. If you have bounced too many checks. What do you think I do?

    I get paid wel for what I do, if I screw up I could get sued. Basicaly, dead beat can say anything to you and you can't so squat, but if I mess up I can be sued. Just think dead beats can get away with a lot in this country. All I do is just try to collect what is owed.

    Most of the time time most these guys just go file bankruptcy anyways. Especailly of they way over their head.

    Guess if you know what I do all day?

  • Lee Elder
    57

    Pending Tragedy for the WTS and JWs

    by Lee Elder in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    pending tragedy for the wts and jws.

    the heavy-handed tactics of the leaders of the watchtower society have begun to bear rotten fruit.

    i suspect that it is just a matter of time before the need arises to coin some phrase to describe disfellowshipped or disassociated jehovah's witnesses who bomb conventions, shoot up kingdom halls or even attack bethel facilities.. leaders of the wts (and local elders) should stop and think about the lessons to be learned from columbine high school, the postal service (i.e.

    1. IslandWoman
    2. nowaytess
    3. You Know
  • nowaytess
    nowaytess

    Tex,

    I personally belived for a long time the Leadership has been waiting for an issue to present to the rank-in-file JW to justify what Leadership wants to do all along, Start a cleansing of all decenters, rebellious one, thosw how dare question the leadership.

    Dateline has provided it. It will begin to divide the Jehovah's Witness in 3 ways;

    1] Many JWS will defend the JWS policy and blame the victims. In fact I have read of those who were on the show as being weak, rebellious or we have not heard the real side of the story. SAdly many are defending the Watchtower.

    2} Many may try to stand up to the leadership or just leave. It will strike the concesince as wrong and do something about it. Any who take action will be Df'd per order of the Governing Body with no exceptions.

    3] Know the what is going on is wrong but are paralyised. Their whole world is going to collapse and may just stay. It is all they know.

  • ChiChiMama
    4

    JWs , Preaching, & The US Supreme Court

    by ChiChiMama in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    here is an interesting article for your veiwing pleasure.. * http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/azstar/20020608/lo/case_holds_interest_of_jehovah_s_witnesses_1.html.

    local - the arizona daily star add to my yahoo!

    news storiesnews photosaudio/videofull coverageall of yahoo!

    1. crawdad2
    2. nowaytess
    3. FreeFallin
  • nowaytess
    nowaytess

    I don't have a problem with a religious group at least being regestered. I like to have a piece of mind knowing I can retarace they groups and thier permits. Being a woman and homeowner, I like to know who is there. Plus, there are homeinvader out there who can just pick up a watchtower and pretend to be a Witness just to gain entry.

    Why? There are just too many creepy things going on out there. I don't mean it should apply to JWS only. but all group who evangleize door-to-door.

  • Lee Elder
    57

    Pending Tragedy for the WTS and JWs

    by Lee Elder in
    1. jw
    2. friends

    pending tragedy for the wts and jws.

    the heavy-handed tactics of the leaders of the watchtower society have begun to bear rotten fruit.

    i suspect that it is just a matter of time before the need arises to coin some phrase to describe disfellowshipped or disassociated jehovah's witnesses who bomb conventions, shoot up kingdom halls or even attack bethel facilities.. leaders of the wts (and local elders) should stop and think about the lessons to be learned from columbine high school, the postal service (i.e.

    1. IslandWoman
    2. nowaytess
    3. You Know
  • nowaytess
    nowaytess

    I agree with you to some extent.

    Personally, I feel the Dateline show will be the issue which Watchtower will use to justfy mass disfellowshipping in the Organization.

    http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/nowaytess

    With a massive disfellowshipping may spawn some the behaviors mention.

    I don't think you post is going to encourge anyone to do any of these acts. I belive the JWS or XJWS if they decide to do some of the desperate acts it will be for other reasons.

  • IslandWoman
    29

    Why is Jehovah allowing his name to be disgraced?

    by IslandWoman in
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    2. friends

    jehovah's name, the very name associated with jehovah's witnesses is being disgraced, trampled upon as never before in the organization's history!!.

    in the past jehovah's witnesses have been reproached for standing up in defense of jehovah and his word.

    jehovah's name was sanctified at all costs and it appears from their history books that jehovah was making a good name for himself by means of their integrity.

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    From: "nowaytess" < [email protected]>
    Date: Fri May 31, 2002 10:19 pm
    Subject: Watchtower's Letter to Dateline

    Just got this from Troy of JaH Christians. I have to agree with the
    fact these guys are not too bright, acually admit to the fact they
    are covering up molestation cases. I think they allowing us to see
    what is in store for JWS who decent next and to justify it. I don't
    think these guys are so stupid this letter will be all over the
    Internet in an hour or so.

    WATCHTOWER'S LETTER TO DATELINE NBC: Drafuse writes "It's amazing to
    read this letter. When the issue in question is pedophiles inside the
    Jehovah's Witnesses congregations, Director J.R. Brown talks
    about "views and opinions [that] should be heard within the framework
    of the congregation". Everyone can understand this is a painful story
    for the Watchtower, but writing a letter to NBC Dateline that proves
    the Watchtower is actually doing all they can to cover up these
    cases, is absolutely fantastic. We have never regarded J.R. Brown and
    his fellow "brothers" in "Office of Public Information" extremely
    smart - but we did not think they were this stupid either! Here is
    the letter:"

    February 7, 2002

    Richard Greenberg
    Dateline NBC
    30 Rockefeller Plaza
    New York, NY 10112

    Dear Mr. Greenberg:

    I am writing in response to your invitation for an on-camera
    interview on upcoming Dateline NBC telecast. Thank you for the
    opportunity to participate; we appreciate your efforts to be fair and
    balanced. As you know, we have endeavoured to cooperate with you and
    your staff as you worked to put the program together.

    Regarding your request for a spokesperson, we recently brought before
    the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, and they respectfully
    declined, as it would appear to pit brother against brother and this
    is not the Christian way to resolve differences. We do not feel that
    a nationwide television program is the forum in which to discuss
    differences in viewpoint between members of our religion. In this
    situation, you have related to us that your participants are
    primarily individuals who still regards themselves as Jehovah's
    Witnesses. We therefore do not view them as adversaries, but as
    individuals whose views and opinions should be heard within the
    framework of the congregation, or church, and not in front of a
    nationwide television audience. This would be in harmony with what
    the apostle Paul admonished, as recorded in the Bible at 1
    Corinthians 1:10, "that you should all speak in agreement, and that
    there should not be divisions among you, but that you be fitly united
    in the same mind and in the same line of thought." Our Governing Body
    is willing to resolve differences of opinion within the framework of
    the congregation and according to Scriptural principles.

    This is not to say that Jehovah's Witnesses are opposed to the idea
    of on-camera interviews in general; however, it is not felt
    appropriate in this circumstance. Again, we want to thank you for
    your invitation, and we ask that you understand our reasons for not
    accepting it.

    Sincerely

    J.R Brown
    Director
    Office of Public Information