i say with mixed feelings and fingers crossed, but i haven't read any of you knows totally stupid and un-thought provoking posts the last few days and i was wondering if he had finally realised what a total moron he sounds or whether simon has done the decent thing and blocked the idiot from posting...or is it just wishfull thinking on my part???
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YK/WTBTS are acting a bit like King Canute - all on his own sitting on a chair on the beach proclaiming loudly that the tide won't come in because i am the King and the sea will do as I say.
And guess what?
The tide came in and made King Canute look like an idiot. His downfall was because of his delusions of grandeur - which reminds me of how the Governing Body will go down!
Nowfree
after being indoctrinated against talking to apostates for years, it is scarey to suddenly start talking on the internet.
but it does help to talk with others who have had the same experiences of the wt society - otherwise you end up thinking you are the only one finding a problem with it.. don't be intimidated by your local elders - they are just as indoctrinated as the rest, and probably have secret fears themselves about the organisation.. i was brought up as a jw for 20 years, was baptised.
i left 18 months ago - i now feel happier than i have ever done - i can think for myself, make decisions for myself.
Big hugs to you Ugg ((((((((((((((((((((((((((hug)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Keep talking to us on the board - some of us are exJWs, some are those who have been studies, some are existing JWs like you, wanting to know whether they are the only ones who are seriously dissatisfied with the WT Society.
This is an open forum - all ideas, thoughts, jokes are welcome. We do not berate anyone's ideas, we do discuss them and ask each other questions about them, but we respect each other's differing beliefs.
Some have gone on to other religions, some (like me!) are totally against organised religion, and query whether there is a God in the first place, but the majority of us respect each other.
Do not feel you have to conform to ANYBODY elses ideas or opinions, cos that is all they are. If you have thoughts, fears then share them with us. It does help!
Keep posting!
Hugs again
Nowfree
after being indoctrinated against talking to apostates for years, it is scarey to suddenly start talking on the internet.
but it does help to talk with others who have had the same experiences of the wt society - otherwise you end up thinking you are the only one finding a problem with it.. don't be intimidated by your local elders - they are just as indoctrinated as the rest, and probably have secret fears themselves about the organisation.. i was brought up as a jw for 20 years, was baptised.
i left 18 months ago - i now feel happier than i have ever done - i can think for myself, make decisions for myself.
Welcome!
After being indoctrinated against talking to apostates for years, it IS scarey to suddenly start talking on the internet. But it does help to talk with others who have had the same experiences of the WT society - otherwise you end up thinking you are the only one finding a problem with it.
Don't be intimidated by your local elders - they are just as indoctrinated as the rest, and probably have secret fears themselves about the organisation.
I was brought up as a JW for 20 years, was baptised. I left 18 months ago - I now feel happier than I have ever done - I can think for myself, make decisions for myself. From the outside of the religion, you get a better picture of it - I now know it is a cult, i can see it for myself. Every JW being told what to do, when to do it, what to say, and what to wear! Whether you can have blood transfusions etc. Mind control all the time.
Well done for making this first step!
Email me if you like
Nowfree
bill bowen just emailed this to me and i wasn't too sure if had been posted.
this is very significant.
if anyone has helen's email or the email of the minister she wrote too asking for the enquiry, please post them.. hawk.
Writing to the Charities Commission in the UK about the noncompliance with the requirements to be a registered charity is great idea.
It would really hit them hard - it would cost them!!
I shall get started on this.
Nowfree
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Bill,
Have you informed Panorama? They do updates on their programmes to keep audiences informed of the repercussions of their investigations.
I also wonder whether the WTS will use this as an opportune time to "clean up" all those who have stopped attending meetings, but are not DA or DF, cos technically speaking all those (including me!!) are not to be shunned (although I can't honestly tell the difference!! They shun whatever!!)
If that was happening in the UK you could shout "Human Rights Act", and they wouldn't stand a cat in hells chance of continuing with their JC.
I wrote to my MP with a copy of the August KM about disfellowshipped ones and how they are to be treated. I explained that this was why most witnesses do not come forward about cases of abuse, because of the threat of disfellowshipping. So this has now proved it!! (Like we didn't know already!!)
Make sure you have lawyers, recording devices and the media with you. They may well DF or DA you in your absence, but it will be recorded by the media and will be yet ANOTHER nail in the JW coffin!
Nowfree
the early day motion that helen clark has made in the house of commons, westminster, calling for a government inquiry into jehovah's witnesses.
exjws and others around the uk are now lobbying their own mps in support of this.
would you be able to do an article on this in the guardian?
Ah well, never mind, worth a try!!
the early day motion that helen clark has made in the house of commons, westminster, calling for a government inquiry into jehovah's witnesses.
exjws and others around the uk are now lobbying their own mps in support of this.
would you be able to do an article on this in the guardian?
The Early Day Motion that Helen Clark has made in the House of Commons, Westminster, calling for a government inquiry into Jehovah's Witnesses.
exJWs and others around the UK are now lobbying their own MPs in support of this.
Would you be able to do an article on this in The Guardian?
Nowfree
bill bowen just emailed this to me and i wasn't too sure if had been posted.
this is very significant.
if anyone has helen's email or the email of the minister she wrote too asking for the enquiry, please post them.. hawk.
Letters to our local MP are going off in the first class post this morning. have also enclosed a copy of the August Kingdom Ministry on treating disfellowshipped ones.
This should help inform the Government the severe pressure individual Witnesses are under when faced with a serious issue like reporting child abuse.
Keep going everyone!!
Nowfree
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it may be worth preparing and brushing up on things ready for the phone-ins and live chat after panorama airs.
they also allow people to submit comments via the website.. in addition, there are often follow up programmes covering issues raised such as this morning, kilroy, tonight with trevor macdonald and various radio phone-ins.. don't be shy people ... the wts is on the ropes with a deservedly bloody nose with this one - let's put them on the canvas.
This week is DRAGGING by - can't wait til Sunday!!!!
Nowfree
just attended the sunday of the zealous kingdom proclaimers district convention in manchester, england and during the final talk we had an update on the world situation as it relates to jehovah's witnesses.
the speaker was peter ellis, a member of the london bethel branch committee.. he stated that many had been waiting for armageddon for some years and some have become disappointed that it hasn't yet arrived, and that newer jw's did not seem to have the same degree of faith as some of the old-timers in the faith, hence this was of serious concern.
then he said something along the lines of 1914 being set in stone and that the organization was not going to get any new light on this key doctrine, hence we can be sure that armageddon is very near.. interesting don't you think?
City Fan: Yep, the brother who is assigned to do the closing prayer ALWAYS has a problem loving the sound of his own voice. They go on and on and in the end NO ONE is listening, just looking around and thinking "when is this nerd going to shut up and let us go home?"
Of course the really clever brothers and sisters would always leave just before the end of the last talk to avoid the queues in the car park!
Nowfree
