Posts by BroMac

i'm constantly amazed by the same old repetitive ramblings and just nonsense that some brothers feel is an acceptable way to pray for a congregation.. once i've finished saying my own i'll listen again to what they are going on about, and round and round they go.

the worse ones are those who can hardly speak english and i cant understand a word thats said apart from the "...feffull slive... bless bruders sis not here..." blah blah.. and everyone has gone through the public talk prayer.

BroMac

for prayers from the platform.

I've "said my own" for a few years now if i find i cant agree with what the brother is praying about. I'm constantly amazed by the same old repetitive ramblings and just nonsense that some brothers feel is an acceptable way to pray for a congregation.

once i've finished saying my own i'll listen again to what they are going on about, and round and round they go. the worse ones are those who can hardly speak english and I cant understand a word thats said apart from the "...feffull slive... bless bruders sis not here..." blah blah.

and everyone has gone through the public talk prayer. 5mins is along time to be stood with your eyes closed. even Jehovah's bored waiting.

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I'm growing a beard

by MrFreeze in

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so i decided the other day, i'm tired of shaving.

so i've started growing a beard for the first time.

ever since i started shaving, i've never gone two days without shaving.

BroMac

@wontleave and wobble

if anyone is shown a wt article in the back room by the eldersees putting down beards it would be good to ask them if we are followers of christ or followers of men. obviously they will reply followers of christ. grab the "bound volume" and show them the pictures of jesus, paul, john etc.

from memory the 68wt was a QFR printed right in the "hippy" movement and after the summer of love. long hair and beards was part of that sub culture, which had a love not war slogan.

was jesus a hippie?

BroMac

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The seven trumpet blasts of Revelation & the Millions campaign.

by transhuman68 in

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one of the jehovahs witness doctrines that many of us have had trouble believing is that the seven angels trumpet blasts described in revelation applied to events that occurred in the 1920s at seven assemblies held around the world at the time when judge rutherford was the president of the watchtower society.. the revelation climax book (1988) contains this summary on page 173:.

highlights of jehovah's trumpetlike judgment proclamations.

1922 cedar point, ohio: a challenge to christendom's leaders in religion, politics, and big business to justify their failure to bring peace, prosperity, and happiness.

BroMac

In 1917
the Bible Students published The Finished
Mystery, a powerful commentary on Revelation
and Ezekiel.
Really.......
Job 40:15 to 41:34 pg84-85 of said book:

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Reached Out Only To Be Rejected

by Quendi in

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last month i got word that a witness i had known had died suddenly.

i hadn't spoken to her since my disfellowshipping six years ago, but we had been good friends.

upon learning of her death, i wrote a letter of sympathy to her fleshly brother, also a witness, who had been a good friend of mine as well.

BroMac

you did a good deed. no doubt also it was good for you to write about your friend.

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VAT 4956/LBAT 1420 question

by outsmartthesystem in

i posted this as comment number one million in the nov 1 wt thread...but i'll post here too:.

i don't know if this has been discussed yet....but if it is agreed that vat 4956 is from the 37th year of nebuchadnezzar (the argument being was year 37 in 568 or 588bc), and there is no argument that bm 38462 (lbat 1420) shows 2 eclipse records for year 17.....then what is the jw response to the details of those eclipses?

bm 38462 (lbat 1420) describes in great detail an eclipse that happened on tebetu 13 of the 17th year of nebuchadnezzar.

BroMac

VM44

very nicely done.

BroMac

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Beards and Overstepping the Commandment of God

by Darth Rutherford in

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why is it you also overstep the commandment of god because of your tradition?

like the pharisees, the watchtower is overstepping the commandment of god because of tradition.

(psalm 118:9; 146:3) yet, where does jehovah, through his word, command a christian not to grow a beard at all?

BroMac

I feel you Darth Rutherford.

i'm not a fan of facial hair personlly, by that i mean i cant see me ever wanting a goatee or big muzzy on my top lip or whatever.

it's a struggle to hold myself back sometimes, when i'm faced with pharasaical reasoning. I just cant help telling the bro's or the sisters who wish they were brothers, to just hang on while i reach inside my bag and look it up in the Talmud.

in my experience it has been the 'collective conscience' of the local elder body that would decide on beards. 2 of the most gifted teachers and genuine 'shepherds' i know are elders with beards. but there are many congregations who will not allow them as a visiting speaker. it upset me when i first discussed it with them, and my thought process was not too disimilar to how Darth Rutherford went through above. but they just accept it the 'norm'.

the only law i'm aware of that the R&F would not neccesarily be aware of is strictly no beards anywhere near an assembly platform.

if its in scripture it's there for a reason, if it is not then it's for our reasoning to decide on. each one will carry their own load.

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What Stupid Things Were You Counseled For?

by minimus in

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i've always been told that i have a very good personality, that i'm humorous, etc.. one elder called me over and said that i was "smiling too much".

the other elders talked to the elder who counseled me and he came back to say that i should be like i was .

.

BroMac

using scriptures that are not in the WT study. my reply "all scripture is inspi", he walked away

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Critique of the NOVEMBER 1 Watchtower article"When Was Ancient Jerusalem Destroyed?"

by Doug Mason in

this critique of the chronology article appearing in the watchtower of november 1, 2011 is in two parts:.

part a discusses points raised by the article;.

part b provides supporting evidences and additional material.. download both parts.

BroMac

first post. (long time lurker)

Thankyou to the above mentioned Doug Mason, Alleymom, Ann O'Mallyand COJ, not just for this work, but for all the time scanning and posting, going back to posts done over 10yrs ago on this subject.

Bible prophecy was the one thing that convinced me of The Truth™

Bible Prophecy was the one thing that convinced me of The Truth About The Truth™

In one of my Pubic Talks™ I explain how perfectly reliable the bible is and how God's word always comes true by delivering a perfect, faith strengthening, encouraging use of scripture to show how jerusalem was destroyed at Tishri 607 by the Babylonian's and how it perfectly ended with them being back in Jerusalem by Tishri 537.........

Of course the bible is not wrong. Jeremiah was not wrong. History is not wrong.

It makes perfect sense and increases faith in the scriptures and in God's Organisation On Earth© when the destruction of Jerusalem is explained from the basis of 607.... (that is if you dont read enyclopedias or Google: "when was jerusalem destroyed" )

It only makes NO sense when other dates are thrown in like 1874 = start of 40yrs Gentile Times (leading to great time of trouble/Great Trib) leading to 1914= The End/Armageddon etc.

end not here yet so must be 1915... maybe not, ok then lets try this, 1914= Christ returned definitely 100% positively "Gods dates not ours", (2520days) just invisibly.

Then in 1918 Christ entered his temple (He actually arrived in 1914 but took a while) and inspected his followers and decided that the Bible Students were where it's at, and appointed them his chosen people and entrusted to them all his belongings in 1919. NO-ONE-ELSE.

The biggest problem here for the .Org is that 586/587 is not prophetically linked to anything in the modern age, it is History, Not Prophecy.

Another Public Talk™ I put in the bin.

BroMac