There are a bunch of things that made me leave but for me at first it was just the outright lack of love within the org. I knew the Bible said true Christians would be noted for their love amongst themselves and I did not see love, I saw people looking down on others and even hatred of people they called their "brothers." I saw the way women are treated in the org. (and being a woman, I saw it first-hand). The blood doctine and shunning were the first doctrines that bothered me, then when they came out with that overlapping generations bullcrap I began questioning more. Now they actually outright say that we have to "obey the faithful and discreet slave class to have Jehovah's approval." So basically if I were to believe all the other lies they teach but not "obey" I would not be saved! Ridiculous. Now that I'm becoming a Christian I see that I actually was "ashamed of Christ" almost, in that I squirmed when I heard the name Jesus and only talked about Jehovah! So for me it's a combination of doctrine and the whole control thing that made me leave, but probably more doctrine than anything else, though the amount of control they have over people is pretty damn scary if you think about it.
lilbluekitty
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Doctrine or HIgh Mind Control as the Last Straw
by Band on the Run ini am curious as to whether the final gut deciding factor to leave was inappropriate doctrine or the overly intrusive control of the wt.
reading the bible normally opened my eyes.
i was born-in and never suspected that they were skewing the bible in such a ridiculous manner or misquoting secular sources.
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DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THIS?
by lola-rabbit indose anyone remember this issue?
i remember i was 18 when i read this, being a youth myself i put myself in their shoes and i was so sad and angry.
their short lives were stolen.
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lilbluekitty
I remember this. I think I was about 8 or 9 years old at the time and to see photos and stories of children, some of whom were MY OWN AGE that died for those crazy beliefs just made me so sad and confused at the time and now makes me even sadder. It's one thing for people to die for these beliefs but to glorify them and publicize their deaths and that they died as "good examples" just makes me sick. I was talking about blood transfusions with my JW grandmother (the nicer one) but not this article specifically, and I said, what would Jesus have done if he was standing there watching these people sacrifice their children for this one thing? I told her, I wouldn't just run out and get one but if I needed it or if I had a child that needed it I wouldn't let the kid bleed to death! Hopefully I gave her something to think about.
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Jehovah's Witnesses Spend Thanksgiving Knocking on Doors
by koolaid-man inhttp://www.wnyc.org/blogs/wnyc-news-blog/2011/nov/24/jehovahs-witnesses-bump-evangelism-thanksgiving/.
wnyc news blogjehovah's witnesses spend thanksgiving knocking on doorsthursday, november 24, 2011 - 12:00 amby daniel p. tucker.
one of 80 territory maps used by jehovah's witnesses from a jackson heights kingdom hall to evangelize door to door.. jehovah's witnesses don't celebrate thanksgiving.
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lilbluekitty
My husband said, "Boy would I like to have a Jehovah's Witness knock on my door today..." while shaking his head.
We passed a KH on the way home from our "evil" Thanksgiving party we went to, I felt bad for all the miserable people stuck going to a meeting tonight. =(
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Last weekends assembly low-lights in Newburgh, ny
by Silent_Scream in1) on saturday's last talk by the do, he made a cool illustration.
he said "imagine my wife found a picture of another woman in my wallet.
and when she approaches my about it, i say 'oh, thats only because she reminds me of you.
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lilbluekitty
Interesting they work our concerns ("apostates") into their parts now...
Also, Newburgh brings back memories, when I was still "good" and therefore on the RBC, I served meals ("Slap and slide, sisters!" the bro. in charge would say as a bunch of little Hispanic ladies, and me, a tiny white lady all stood on milk crates slapping unidentifiable mush onto styrofoam plates, but I digress) when they were building it! Sorry I got a little off topic LOL.
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lilbluekitty
I confessed for my major sin (living with my husband before we got married) but before I moved in with him, a girl I thought was my friend (who turned out to be a pretty nasty slut masquerading as a good little speeeritual sister) told on me that I had an online boyfriend (the same guy who's now my husband) to the elders. They didn't form a JC exactly but they sat down and talked with me about the dangers of dating worldly guys and such and marrying only in the Lord and all that. I was pretty set on my relationship with him so the Watchtower articles they photocopied for me ended up in the trash or buried under papers and never read by me. I was pretty pissed off at that girl for telling on me. =/
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Thanksgiving: The lamest of all Holidays...
by Open mind in... to explain why jws don't celebrate it.
how did you do explain it when you were in?
om.
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lilbluekitty
I never could explain that one, especially since my family all but celebrated Thanksgiving, they did everything but call it that! We got together as a family (JW family anyway) and sat around the table and had a whole roast turkey, stuffing, cornbread, green bean casserole and cranberry sauce on our best dishes. My grandfather at the head of the table saying the prayer thanking God for all we had and my sister and I being allowed to put our handprint turkeys on the table as decorations that our "worldly" teachers had us make!! Right now on Facebook some of my JW friends and family (only 2 are shunning me right now) are talking about running over to Walmart to get their turkey's before the holiday so they'll be cheap!! Oh the irony...
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Family Worship Night percentages
by JRK ini am curious how many families actually do this, and how many lie and say they do.
i would guess it is less than 50%.
i would say it is a good night for tv.. jk.
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lilbluekitty
I had left the org (the first time) by the time that whole thing started. I went back to live with my family for awhile while my husband and I were separated and I was starting to come back to being a JW for awhile, and at first, they really got into it every week but it was really just meeting prep, not an actual study. Later on we'd just watch TV but read the text first, that was it. For little while I was at my mom's and she was "studying" one of the brochures with me, I forget which one but it's for people who have never read the Bible before and is ridiculously easy and therefore boring. Basically she and I took turns reading pages, not much else.
When I finally reconciled with my husband and moved back here, I tried just doing the weekly Bible reading with him but it didn't pan out as it was pretty boring and he normally reads the New Testament more (that's while I was still in.) Now that I'm out and learning to be a Christian, we basically discuss Bible topics every day, not because we have to but because we actually want to and enjoy it. Ahhh...much better!
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Was The Internet The Clincher For You To Mentally Leave The Organization?
by minimus ini think it was for me.. i knew a lot of the history of the bible students, russell, rutherford and the "old light".
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once i could see all of the overwhelming evidence right in front of my eyes, there was no ignoring the reality..
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lilbluekitty
It was definitely helpful in my seeing that JWs are not the true religion but really it was the Bible itself that helped me out of the org, reading scriptures I had always taken for granted in another translation (NIV) instead of the NWT and realizing the whole JW thing is a farce and was keeping me from getting close to God and Jesus. That and the HUGE lack of love in the org. when they're always calling it a "spiritual paradise."
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I was counselled regarding my prayer-ridiculous,
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lilbluekitty
I applaud you on your prayer!!!
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What do Jehovah's Witnesses get baptized into?
by howdidtihappen inok, so every other religion in the world's baptism is invalid according to jw's, and theirs is the only true baptism.
that's the story i get.
i have a few questions about that:.
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lilbluekitty
This is why now that I've accepted Christ I'm getting re-baptized.