Brainwashed people can explain away all logic. Only those who already have serious doubts will benefit from these questions. The lurkers HERE are the ones who will be helped the most. These kinds of questions are what caused hubby and I to completely break free of the spell. Keep the posts commin' Terry. The seeds of doubt will sprout where the conditions are right-often where you least suspect.
Posts by 3rdgen
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1410 Questions for Elders when they start annoying you
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Do You Regard President Obama In The Same Way As You Did BEFORE The Election?
by minimus inlately, even late night comedians are starting to make fun of the president.. i hear more negatives about the president than ever before---even from his own voters.. (i had high hopes for him when he beat mccain but since then, i believe the president has been a huge disappointment)..
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3rdgen
If I could have voted for him I would have. (wasn't registered yet.) The LAST thing I wanted to do was vote for a fundy Mormon!!! However, I wouldn't now. The banking crisis has been the biggest blunder inMO. Billions of bailout money for THEM yet, not one penny to help the people caught in the housing bust and forced into forclosure. If he would have given the money to the homeowners with bad loans DIRECTLY, they never would have lost their homes and property values never would have tanked. When property values sank new home building came to a screeching halt which by domino effect left millions of tradesman out of work etc. Literally overnight the banks withdrew peoples home and business lines of credit. They were left with no way to finish remodeling and building projects. With ruined credit there was no way to purchase goods and services that provide jobs. No jobs? Forced for the first time into public assistance. And round and round it goes till there is a real depression .(which is still present in my community. Obama was either complicit or outsmarted by the banks. Either way it's been a disaster.
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Let's lampoon the buzzwords!!
by ILoveTTATT ini am keeping this short because i have little time but... here are my favorite lampoons of the buzzwords:.
watchtower - washtowel.
conventions - con-ventions... i would invent con-men-showns.
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3rdgen
Pioneers= Pios Sneers
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Pets are false gods
by Rattigan350 ini"m listening to the 2013 dc green bay saturday talk on false gods.. the speaker says no one would knowingly worship false deities.
but could we inadvertantly give jehovah less than exclusive devotion he deserves.. he said:you have not allowed this deception power of sin to sensual desires, material comforts, pets, technology, entertainment or food to become objects of devotion to you.. anything that interferes with our spiriutal routine has the power of eroding or weaking our relationship with jehovah.. .
my dogs can erode my relationship with jehovah.
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3rdgen
The idea that a pet can become a god to a "true Christian" is nothing new. Articles have been cited here that are at least 40 years old but the WBT$ taught that ANYTHING and ANYONE who is loved as much as Jehovah has become your GOD long before that. My parents were taught by the Rutherford Bible and Tract Society. Thay had contempt for pets and the people who loved them, saying those ones were "weak in the faith". When I demonstrated that I parented my children with love instead of the way I was raised, my mother and aunt said I had made GODS out of my children!!! Good JWs are robots without natural affection. Mission accomplished.
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How many JWs are genuinely in "good standing"?
by slimboyfat inan interesting question arose from my earlier thread:.
we all know that many jws do stuff that would get them disfellowshipped, but never get caught.
but how many jws do you think there really are who have never kept any disfellowshipping "offense" secret?
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3rdgen
Another aspect of this question would be how long ago the infraction was committed. Elders who manage to keep their "sin" secret for at least 2 years are home free and can remain in their position. So they are genuinely in good standing according to the convoluted Dub rules. If the 2 year rule applies to the RandF then many could say they genuinely are in good standing as well. If the question becomes How many Jw's have done somthing that POSSIBLY could result in DFing? then IMHO close to 100%
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What constitutes 'proof' on JWN?
by besty inrecently there have been a few threads where claims have been made alledging personal negative effects in 'real life' following internet activity on jwn and other ex-jw related sites.
discussion then ensues, aspects of which may include 3rd parties either disputing the truth or affirming the likelihood of the claim.
questions are asked.
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3rdgen
I apologise for going off topic here but........ Ive had a particularly stressful week. When I read this thread I thought it was much ado about nothing. However, SBF, made me LOL with his comment about nattering on and hip bloody horray. HAhahaha. thanks for lifting my mood!
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Old 1920's watchtower about people flying in 'the new system?'
by Joliette ini can remember some people on here talking about this, but i can seem to find the post?
any other weird articles from the 20's?.
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3rdgen
The most outragous to me is the assertion made that dark skinned people would eventually turn white in the new world. Can you imagine!!!??? What a crackpot Rutherford was! If I had known that was a JW belief at one time I never would have been baptized. Sorry i don't have the link for you.
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JW couple die 1 day apart after being married for 75 years!
by ohiocowboy inplus, they were born on the same day in 1918!.
jw or not, it's nice to read about how much people can love each other for so many years!!!.
http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_23733256/long-time-long-beach-couple-die-day-apart?source=rss_viewed.
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3rdgen
OC, thanks for the story. I would love to see a wedding picture of these two. I'll bet they looked like movie stars! I've said this before, and I'll say it again, many JWs are lovely loving people who are simply deceived. This couple appears to be that kind. My grandparents were married almost 70 years. They died within 6mos of each other. My theory is that aside from both being old, very long married couples die within a short period of time because they simply loose the will to live once the other has died.
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Crazy JW chaperon Stories
by superman inthe jw's must not trust their members or at least don't have too much faith in them when it comes to being alone around member of the opposite sex.
i can remember one time in particular from when i was a teenager that still makes me laugh today.. when i was younger i used to go out in service on a regular basis during the week when i had summer break.
one time when i met for service there were only two other people that showed up.
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3rdgen
I totally agree that the borg is OBSESSED with sex. I started dating in the late 60's before the emphasis of dating being only for marriage and the admonition of chaperones. I dated a handful of guys aged 16-21. We went to witness parties, picnics, all day outings on the beach, out to dinner, movies etc. The only chaperones were at the parties. Yes, we spent some time making out but I was a virgin when I married and so were my boyfriends. HOWEVER, I married at 17 because my boyfriend wanted to have sex and there was no other acceptable way. Fast forward 30 years. I am a scripturely free woman in my late 40's. An Elder wants to have a cup of coffee with me but we can't because my divorce was held up and not yet final! After it was final he bought me a hamberger at the CA. The whole cong was buzzing that we were a couple........because of ONE HAMBERGER????!!!! We couldn't sit together at the meetings until we were engaged.....wtf? What is anyone going to do in their seats at the KH? And how would being engaged change anything that happens in your seat? Ridiculous Idiotic cult!!!!
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"Worldly people don't love the same as Jehovah's Witnesses"
by Comatose inin a conversation with my mum she said, "son the friends love you and care about you so much.
they would die for you.
that's something you don't find in the world.
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3rdgen
One of the situations that woke us up to TTATT was the situation with my son. Very long story short: Son(in mid teens) leaves my home, moves in with ex JW father when Elder hubby and I marry. Son leaves father, goes off to college and decides he wants to study to be a JW. Being active JWs at the time we are thrilled and try to arrange for a study- NOBODY would do it. Son graduates, moves in with us and again we try to get someone to study with him. NOT ONE Elder or MS would do it. Hubby studys with stepson but there is friction. Son has accident and dies. All show up at the funeral home (wouldn't let us use KH) Hubby asks for help with some chores. NOBODY would help!!! ALL hubby's and my family are JWs. NOT ONE would help. So much for JW love.