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  Behold the face of indoctrination! My moms guilt tripping letter to me.

  by BU2B in

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  i wish i knew what it was like to have an unconditionally loving mother.

  i know she loves me and cares about me, but only within her narrow wt spectrum.

  if i do not meet her narrow expectations, i am a failure to her.

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  BU2B, Sorry you are another born in who only knows conditional love from his parents. I am one as well. My father died when I was still in high school. My mother then took put downs and guilt trips to an art form. She hardly spoke to her only grandchildren simply because they didn't measure up to HER standards.

  I woke up after she developed dementia and had to be placed in a rest home. She is in her 90's and still mean as ever, actually worse, now she has become violent. Almost every night I have a nightmare that she is still living with us. The religion is toxic and it's people are often poisoned by it.

  Millie, very good post I thoroughly relate.
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

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  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  3rdgen

  Well said Magnum.
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

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  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  3rdgen

  steve2, I agree with you 100%

  Believe me, I claim WILLFUL ignorance as well as a measure of selfishness wanting to live in paradise. There is blame to go around and around.

  The reason I made my post is I don't think people who believed what was said in that 1969 article were/are necessarily stupid. Our natural intelligence was not fostered or rewarded. We were directed to be "sheep like" as the gold standard for faithfulness. And the pressure from family? INTENSE As I was reading that article my much older brother was being shunned and disinherited by the family simply for not getting baptized!

  All that being said I am mad at myself for being too stubborn and lazy to research my own religion as an adult.
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  Anyone else feeling de-sheeped?

  by Slave4_38y in

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  i've never felt sheepish but the more i learn ttatt, i've been mentally de-sheeped.. .

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  3rdgen

  Yup,

  de programmed

  de sheeped

  de lighted :)
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

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  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  3rdgen

  daringhart13,

  Of course, a lot of us feel stupid for believing that lie but we were born to parents and grandparents who "inculcated/mentally regulated" our minds from birth. I and many others trusted our parents to have our best interests at heart. Besides, we have learned the effects that b.i.t.e. mind control has on people.

  Something else to consider about that time: 1963 JFK was assassinated, The Vietnam War was raging and we were seeing the bloodbath play out in living color in magazines and television. By the end of the 60's Civil rights, Watts riots, Malcomb X, MLK and RFK ALL assassinated over and over again in front of our eyes in the news programs every night on TV. Add to that the HUGE growth in the borg which seemed to fulfill the prophesy that "ten men will take hold of the skirt of a Jew". It seemed to make sense at the time.

  So no, I won't accept that I was that stupid. I was lied to.
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  You will never grow old in this current system of things... - Awake, May 22, 1969 p. 15

  by cappytan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  check this out.

  got this bound volume from my dad.. .

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  3rdgen

  I was 17 when that article came out so of course I remember it and the climate in the entire organization vividly.

  To me, the issue is not so much that they were dead wrong (thus false prophets) as the CONSEQUENCES to those who were fed this spoiled spiritual food. We made life's most important decisions based on the belief that the world would POSITIVELY end in 6 years or less. Now take gullible adults with their impressionable children and imagine the dumb shit JW's did which to this day is negatively affecting our lives.

  It's easy for younger dubs to pass it off as "old light" Honest older ones know better.
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  Common lie told by Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Watchtower-Free in

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  3rdgen

  Magnum, "......see how far that gets you....."

  That will get you a quick trip to the infamous "Back Room".
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  Female Perspective about WTS, marital relationship & control

  by Muddy Waters in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  despite my user name, am female.

  i was not born-in, began studying when i was around 20, am 50 damn years old now and have spent almost the last 30 years in that stupid religion.

  but here are some observations, make of them what you will.

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  Muddy Waters,

  Your observations can be helpful to those whose wives are still in.

  I agree with your observations because I lived it. My first husband was Dfed for the second time and no longer pretended to be a JW. I was miserable trying to "save" our children from certain death from my loving God with what I saw as a terrible "Worldly influence" from their father. I was angry that he broke our JW wedding vows about a "threefold cord" with "Jehovah in our marriage" I'm embarrassed to say I threw tantrums too. For that and many other reasons the marriage ended.

  Meanwhile, I find a polar opposite of my first husband in my new congo. He he's a respected elder, kind, honest, faithful, completely unselfish. We marry and attempt to be as perfect JWs as possible. That didn't last long and is a separate story. The point is we are now both out physically and mentally and are experiencing the same freedom as INDIVIDUALS as you and our marriage has been strengthened because of it. We do not always agree but when we don't, we don't pass moral judgement on the other or try to see what the Watchtower (yuck) has to say on the subject. Like you, we are FINALLY acting like adults.
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  I Haven't Missed a Meeting in Years!

  by Oubliette in

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  i recently ran into a jw i knew from a few years back.you know how it goes, a few pleasantries that always seem much more awkward than they really should (not for me, mind you--for him).and then the question, "so what congregation are you attending?

  are you able to make the meetings?

  "i'm thinking: do you always start conversations this way?so anyways, knowing full well the jw-mindset, i decided to have a bit of fun.furrowing my brow, i said, "that's an odd question!

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  3rdgen

  Oub, That was classic! BA and I are laughing out loud just picturing that scenario. We love your first statement, "That's an odd question," JW's seldom realize how dippy they sound. :)
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  Cheers to all! I'm in the house now! Finally signed up.

  by Lifeisfun in

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  2. experiences

  hi readers and lurkers, .

  i decided it was time to register to the site.

  after all these years, it was just a matter of time.

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  3rdgen

  Welcome Lifeisfun!

  So glad you have freedom at this wonderful time in your life. Enjoy!

  I would like to know a little more about your family situation. PM me if you are not comfortable to mention it here.