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Posts by 3rdgen
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62Are your Ready for Sunday's WT...1914...
by Legacy into all who are still active...& those who are not...... is everyone ready for wt for sunday....1914....is everyone ready to see the friends faces, that will pretend all is well.
but their minds will be racing.
i started the article...talk about confusing...but maybe on purpose only a few in the hall will be able to break it down.
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Does Anyone Remember the "Around The World Assemblies"?
by titch inso, being that it is 2013, i recall that it was 50 years ago, that the "around the world assemblies" were held.
for those of us who lived in southern california, the first week of september was when we had the assembly, and it was held at the rose bowl in pasadena.
yep, the rose bowl, with no seats, per se, but just those hard benches as seats.
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LOL Apog, you would have to be there to fully appreciate these marathon DCs. The funny thing is I really looked forward to them once I was old enough NOT to be taken out for a beating. The experience made me feel special as though this giant group of people and I were going to start something new and amazing-the New world! When all you know as a kid is this way of life you have no idea how weird it actually is. These conventions, although terribly long and difficult served to solidify faith in the WBT$. Especially when you would see old friends still faithful. The hot pastrami on onion roll sandwiches-priceless.
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Does Anyone Remember the "Around The World Assemblies"?
by titch inso, being that it is 2013, i recall that it was 50 years ago, that the "around the world assemblies" were held.
for those of us who lived in southern california, the first week of september was when we had the assembly, and it was held at the rose bowl in pasadena.
yep, the rose bowl, with no seats, per se, but just those hard benches as seats.
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LOL Lois, i remember. recently i ran across some pictures of the welcome home gathering for my father in our motel room at Pasadina. I wish I could post it. There were at least 30 people there. There was PLENTY of Scotch and ginger ale flowing. Booze got the adults through the misery of the whole thing. Maybe I even met some of you there. I was the curly haired freckle faced kid with the thick kitty- cat glasses. LOL
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Does Anyone Remember the "Around The World Assemblies"?
by titch inso, being that it is 2013, i recall that it was 50 years ago, that the "around the world assemblies" were held.
for those of us who lived in southern california, the first week of september was when we had the assembly, and it was held at the rose bowl in pasadena.
yep, the rose bowl, with no seats, per se, but just those hard benches as seats.
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Yup, I remember vividly that 8 day Pasadina convention in 63. I was 11. My father went on the trip around the world with his best friend and my future stepfather. My mother refused to go with him on the trip so I lost out on the once -in- a- lifetime experience to travel the entire world. After being gone over 30 days on the trip my dad met up with my mom and a bunch of other relatives at the final convention of the series at Pasadina. I almost didn't recognize my dad because he had lost 40 pounds on the trip. He had a severe heart condition and had gotten very sick. As usual, mom was completely indifferent to his illness. My parents dragged their press-on seats, umbrellas, thermos bottle, and me every miserable day. The biggest highlight for me was always the snow-cones. LOL
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Are your Ready for Sunday's WT...1914...
by Legacy into all who are still active...& those who are not...... is everyone ready for wt for sunday....1914....is everyone ready to see the friends faces, that will pretend all is well.
but their minds will be racing.
i started the article...talk about confusing...but maybe on purpose only a few in the hall will be able to break it down.
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Michelle365, you must be reading my mind. I think the meetings are purposely designed to numb the brain and senses. The halls are usually stuffy, the material repetitious, the delivery monotonous, the comments inane. While the sheeple are in this trancelike state they are open to the power of suggestion. We are the truth.... We are Gods spirit-directed organization.......disagreing with us is tantamount to rejecting God....... Do more....... Do more...... Do more........Donate to us....... Donate more to us.......Write your kids out of the will...........ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
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I bet you can't sit still while listening to this
by Hortensia inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoatqo82k-k.
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Wasblind, Hubby doesn't dance like Earnest T Bass. It's more like a dancing bear doing the Hokey Pokey. It's haliarious!
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"You knew what the consequences were when YOU decided to leave The Truth. This is YOUR decision and the outcome is YOUR responsibility."
by nicolaou inhow many of us have had to deal with a version of that retort?!
it's hurtful and i suspect - for some - that's partly because of the nagging feeling that our families may have a point.. but do they?.
i was 15 when i got baptised, is it reasonable that as the 50 year old man i'll be on my next birthday i continue to be held to a decision i made as a schoolboy?.
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Thank you Ablebodiedman, for citing that old WT article. I cant wait to use it on my MIL who is such a clueless JW that she didn't believe me when I told her the baptismal vows were changed in the 80's. I told her that "you and I didn't dedicate ourselves to an organization when we were baptized but rather to Jehovah and his son. Right? She agreed. I said when ******* (my daughter)got baptized, the society had changed to include their ORGANIZATION!. She didn't believe me and furthur insulted me by saying "I'd have to see THAT in writing." Can someone tell where the NU(80's) baptism vows are printed??? Thanks!
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Where in the Bible does it talk about an earthly Paradise as the JW's teach, and why only the JW's will be there?
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Many years ago Jws made a joke about explaining this doctrine in one visit with a householder. We called it the "From Adam to Armageddon sermon". The explanation ,in a nutshell was: The first human pair lived in Paradise with the prospect of living forever. They disobeyed Gods test of faith, they were ousted from the garden and died. God then decided to send Jesus to the earth to tell the good news that his death as a perfect man would pay the price for Adamic sin. This makes it possible for believers to be restored to gods favor and live in paradise as was gods origional purpose for the earth. Psalm 37:10,11 29 are read. Where at least the NWT says forever on earth. The wicked will be destroyed (at Armageddon Rev 16:16) so that paradise won't be messed up by mean people. At this point wicked is up to the mind of the listener. Of course, eventually they are taught the definition of wicked is ANYONE who doesn't get in the symbolic "Ark of Salvation" (parallel to Noah's day yada yada) which they identify as Gods visible organization to wit: Jehovah's Witnesses.so......There is a lot of assuming done in this explanation but it sounds good and at one time or another most of us bought it.
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"You knew what the consequences were when YOU decided to leave The Truth. This is YOUR decision and the outcome is YOUR responsibility."
by nicolaou inhow many of us have had to deal with a version of that retort?!
it's hurtful and i suspect - for some - that's partly because of the nagging feeling that our families may have a point.. but do they?.
i was 15 when i got baptised, is it reasonable that as the 50 year old man i'll be on my next birthday i continue to be held to a decision i made as a schoolboy?.
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Contracts signed under duress are invalid. My parents had DISOWNED my much older brother for simply choosing NOT to be baptized in the first place. By disowned I mean NO contact whatsoever and written out of the will. I didn't MEET him till I was 16. I knew if I didn't believe as they did I'd be homeless. I got dunked at 12. ALL of us entered into a fraudulent agreement and some of us entered that fraudulent agreement under duress. How valid can it be?
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How I see it in JW land
by tornapart inthey're tired... sooooo soooo tired.
they know it's all wrong but they keep telling themselves how wonderful it is.
almost as if they are trying to convince themselves.
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Another thought regarding whether or not Jw's are fizzling out. As I see it, zeal and joy are declining as a whole. Still the fear of loosing family,friends and business relationships keeps people attached to old habits. One of which is the habit of not thinking deeply or doing research on what is being taught. Another habit is attending assemblies and conventions. These pep rallies keep members satisfied that they have stayed in the right club. After all, it IS called the truth. At this point there are enough club members (no matter how unmotivated or unhappy) to keep it going by simply reproducing. When is the last time council has been given NOT to have children? Answer: not for decades. The WBT$ simply INSISTS they marry other baptized JWs. If plenty of children come from these unions, even if more leave than stay, even if the old die off, and even if there are no converts from the field there are enough to keep the club going for many many more "overlapping generations."