please discuss why you don't believe in god and that which could convince you to believe in god ??
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Yikes, to be so narrowed minded...to not see that THIS (what we know today) is NOT everything that there is to know...yikes !
....... I'm sorry, are you saying that even if God doesn't demonstrate traits defined by his believers on a measurable scale, that doesn't matter because we just don't know everything? YIKES. To not know who you're worshipping, what a waste.
estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
If ONLY everything was as easy as AGuest, tec, N.drew make it out to be. Did someone send out food this morning to Somalia? What a moronic question. Where can I drop off the food? Is there a drop off center in the rural areas of the world, and some of the urban where that day it would be sent to the victims of suffering? And does it reach all across the world, to the people who are hungry in our own streets? No. Are people financially able to feed everyone on Earth? Are there people that are? Yes. Do they? No. Who allows this to happen? Not us, not me, I have no power of what Trump, Gates, and previously Jobs do/did with their money. Who allows it? Well seeing as how you believe in God, it must be God, for who has absolute power over everyone? GOD.
please discuss why you don't believe in god and that which could convince you to believe in god ??
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Valid evidence that can be found outside of the book you are trying to prove. If I am trying to prove that a table is made of wood, would I say "Yes but look at the patterns, it MUST be wood."? Of course not, if you are trying to prove the Bible to me, don't use the Bible. Find me proof.
also posted on the yuku forum.. i thought it might be amusing to make a list of things i remember when i was a dub that we couldn't have or own or wear.
(some of these things vary by where you live, in other places dubs have them, it just depends).
obviously the list goes on forever, but feel free to add things.
I'm sorry but I noticed that you said
"Men-Don't dress like slobs"
I have always been interested in suits (and worn them), studied the history, designs, upkeep, and etiquette concerning them. JW men are some of the WORST dressers in the history of mankind. Half of them don't even know how to iron their clothing, buff their shoes, or tie a tie. They also wear awful combinations, including the contemporary, popular (horrid) bright colored dress shirts, and the contemporary, popular (horrid) metallic plaid ties. The choice in shoes is also quite pathetic (rubber soles... really?). I've also witnessed (aha) many JW's wearing silly, awful, nostalgic ties, including sports, beer, and gambling ties (the ones with cards and stuff). When I went to meetings I always wore a fedora (not those horrible modern conceptions, like the Trillby) so where did you get the "no hats for men" thing?
believing in a god is a leap of faith.
being an atheist is also a leap of faith, and that goes for the evolutionists too.
i believe in absolute truth as found in the bible.
Yes Vidqun, I do blame the Bible for most horrible things that have happened.
Holy Wars, Crusades, genocide, I don't only blame the Bible I blame religion. Most people say "but it was people who did it", yes, but if the Bible never existed it would have never happened.
People's potential have also been dumbed down by religion. Rather than contributing to science, art, or music, they are too busy at the seminary, or church.
Religion is resonsible for prejudice, rascism, and massacring of thousands.
Even the Bible chronicles these occurrences, and gives rules to the people of God, like Leviticus 20:13, which tells us to kill all known homosexuals.
Most everything bad that happens can be blamed on God.
He knows all
He is all powerful
He is perfectly good
Evil exists.
This is logically impossible, and thus there is something wrong with that statement.
There many proofs against theism, including the Logical Problem of Evil and the Evidential Problem of Evil.
I suggest you check out the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy.
http://www.iep.utm.edu/atheism/
estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
AGuest, would you mind naming names? I would prefer to know if I am in the group of people who apparently lack knowledge of the Bible, that way I can witness my mistakes and correct them.
personal favorites?
post the youtube .... .
i've been chatting with a friend, and lilstening to this tune ... i grew up listening to all the great mo'town hits, and this is one of my favorite songs ever.
I love Motown, but can we also make this a DooWop thread? I always view them in sort of the same light.
estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
I'm sorry, did you just call me a dumbass? YOU? Calling ME a dumbass? I've read through your 32 pages of absolute shit (pardon the francais) posts you have offered, not addressing the issue. I asked you to address the issue and you insult me. Did I say I wouldn't give that up if it would stop human trafficking? You sick, abhorrence of an individual for accusing ME of being some sort of sexual fiend. I just said that giving it up wouldn't stop it, but if it WOULD of COURSE I would give it up, for life even. How DARE you have the AUDACITY of that accusation, you filth uttering swine, you whine about being offended and then call someone a dumbass and then utter this garbage. "So God should stop the hunger, but not the sex. Got ya!" Where in the hell did I even say that? Your assumptions make you look like more of a moron than you ever have, and you DEFINITELY have looked like one. Talk about offensive, assuming some trait or quality that I allegedly have without even knowing who I am, or what my moral values are, I would NEVER do the same to you.
believing in a god is a leap of faith.
being an atheist is also a leap of faith, and that goes for the evolutionists too.
i believe in absolute truth as found in the bible.
Vidqun, did you just start this Absolute knowledge vs. Relativism thread to argue about the existence of God? We have a thread going for that, it's been going. Absolute knowledge vs. Relativism does not have anything to do with God. You can not argue for Absolute knowledge with the Bible. I wouldn't argue for Relativism with Aesop's Fables. You didn't address my post whatsoever, a post that logically refuted your original proposition. You didn't even answer me. Please don't start another infuriating thread concerning the existence of God by using a false premise, ask for answers, and then IGNORE those answers. If you want to speak on the subject of Absolute knowledge and Relativism that's perfectly fine, but don't argue for either side by use of a story book that has yet to be proven true.
estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.
that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.
still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.
I do believe this is what Jeff is talking about.
N.drew, that is not a thesis. I'm not sure where you learned what a thesis is, but a thesis addresses the topic at hand, and gives some sort of opinion or statement backed up by facts either agreeing with said statement or disagreeing. You only stated that you KNEW that these forms of torture exist "I know there are children who have attempted to escape horror only to find themself in worse horrible conditions. I am talking about commercially sexually exploited children. It is happening right "under our noses"*. I do not know how it feels to starve. I do know how it feels to be sexually exploited (not to the same degree as those children were). You use the illustration of masses of starving children" and then, instead of addressing the point that the bad things go on and God does nothing, you offer another example (against yourself) about trafficked youth. You DID NOT answer Jeff's question. WHY do these things happen and God does nothing. WHY? PLEASE I beg of you, ANSWER that question.
I do believe you just accused atheists of taking part in sexual pleasure offered by trafficked youth. "Would the atheists be willing to give up thier sexual pleasure (not forever, let's say for seven years) if it would guarantee the release of those children from their pimps?" If you were, that is highly offensive. If you just misworded it incorrectly, your premise is falsely proposed, because even if atheists gave up sexual pleasure (can't theists do the same?) for seven years, nothing would happen. You utilized hypothetical mysticism to propose an invalid solution to the situation of human trafficking.
Just PLEASE answer the question.
