Losingit,
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i don't even know where to start.. more than anything, i'd like to say that i am not a woman of vengeance.
i am very much a forgiving person.
if you say "i'm sorry," and you're genuine, i can move on from it quickly and easily.
Losingit,
Thinking of some creative revenge? Check out this website. If your going to have to go to the meetings, you might as well have some fun.
http://www.internationalspyshop.com/special-ingredients-revenge.aspx
so, we're in the final countdown with the convention just over a month away.
i've talked to a few folks that have already attended it on the east coast and west coast and keep hearing that its the most up-building program they've ever been to.
seems the message is clear that we need to stop being so hard on ourselves and take time to appreciate the efforts we have put in and know that we are deeply loved.
I bet the WBTS will be gone in 10 years due to the internet. That would be nice
there was thread that started with the recording of the dc 17 minute talk on apostates?
i can't find it..
There was thread that started with the recording of the DC 17 minute talk on Apostates? I can't find it.
an 'apostate' inactive jw in america i know on facebook went to the dc and said fully 600 people left between the end of the apostate talk and the lunch break.
have any of you who also went to the dc seen something like this happen?
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Result does not justify the means
so after our incident today i let some time pass so as not to kill the mood and bring up all the annoying watchtower stuff.
however i said, "babe seriously, i know you were upset about the other issue but you seem to just never want to even think about borg stuff again!
i am glad - don't get me wrong - but so i can reall understand please tell me what was it that made youjust wash your hands clean so fast?".
I am so so happy and proud of you sosoconfused! I think you need to change your screen name to sosoSure. You have been very patient with your wife and your approach delicate. Keep up with your honest compassion for her.... I do not know your family/friend situation, but for sure she needs you more than ever as that big rock to hold on to.
an 'apostate' inactive jw in america i know on facebook went to the dc and said fully 600 people left between the end of the apostate talk and the lunch break.
have any of you who also went to the dc seen something like this happen?
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Isn't it lovely that the WBT$ thinks about us mentally ill apostates at every DC? Good grief, we don't have to picket/protest DC anymore, they do it for us.
Now I have been out for 25 years plus and I listened to that Youtube recording of Human Apostates. Never in my entire JW life have they ever come out so heavy handed on those who choose to not be JWs anymore. This is all out war! As a social worker I am beyond appalled at the word choices of "Mentally ill, diseased. If this is not slander, right from the top, I would hate to hear what they do call slander. I really think there is a class action law suit here for the use of those terms. Can anyone imagine if the WBTS came out and called all Catholics Mentally diseased? Even with the nicest, milk toast, Pope in the world as we have in Pope Francis, he would not stand for this. What would YOUR neighbors say or do if you called them "mentally diseased" for any reason what-so-ever! What if you told your neighbor's children their parents were mentally diseased? Either a police officer or a shot gun would be at your door in no time.
And here is the big one..... MINOR children being told their parents are "mentally diseased" either indirectly or directly. That IS a law suit! Never mind friends that we understand their desperation to seperate families.... the WAY they are doing it is pure slander. They have crossed the line with this one.
so given the amount of focus on things that we can be angry or upset about, or how we have been wronged or abused.... i thought it was time for a bit of a change.. how about sharing some fun experiences?!!
ok, i will start.
i promised, in my opening post the other day, that i would share some that have happened over the years.
I have mentioned this before, but it is worth posting again.
Last summer, before she died, my JW mother had lived with me for 8 years, anyways last summer she got a hold of one of her check books (I was her legal conservator and guardian) and wrote out a check to the building committee for the amount of $5K. Well because the reason I was her conservator was because of others taking advantage of her, esp. JW and my Jw relitivies. This pitucular account never had anymore than 5 hundred in it for that very reason. One Thursday morning I get a call from Bro. Slick. "I tried to cash this check your mom wrote out but there are not enough funds. It is for $5K. "Come one over and I will fix it for you" I told him. In 20 minutes he was at the door. "I am so sorry for the confusion, I am sure this will take care of anything" I so sweetly told him, and I handed him a envelope and closed the door.
The envelope had copies of my conservatorship letter and the Judge's order that she is not to "gift" any monies to anyone. And oh.... I put a $5 bill in it.
did you get baptized without being dedicated?.
why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.
why were you serving jehovah at all?
A vow to a lier is no vow at all
been oooh, 4 months now, nothing, nada, zip, like i never even existed.. no one knows i am awakened, etc... so as far as they concerned i'm still in wt land.. starting missing meetings as i was ill with a virus, knocked me out physically.
the rest is history, as they say.. .
so much for the love that is preached.
Hang something festive for the 4th of July
and i don't (necessarily) mean a religious or spiritual one.. for example, i think the traces of guilt and paranoia i often fight with come from being a born-in, but my biggest issue by far is not being able to live in the moment.. i have listened to the power of now audiobook (and eckhart tolle's voice put me to sleep) so i read it instead.
i have read other self-help books, most of them buddhist in leaning, but i still find it hard to stop thinking only in the future (thanks to the great trib, armageddon), or in the past (jesus, flood, 1914 being responsible for that).
and whilst i no longer believe the big a is looming, and barely give anything else a second thought, my behaviour has projected itself, and i still find it difficult just to 'be' in the moment, enjoying and savouring what i'm doing, and doing it to the best of my ability, i'm forever thinking what is coming up, and what i did badly last time.. my sister said the last time i visited her that she felt like she was waiting for something to happen "but not like armageddon, something else".
Grab the nearest 8 year old, neice, nephew, cousin, neighbor and play a board game or play catch. For us born-ins being around young children help fill the holes.