Posts by OBVES

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The Number of the Wild Beast

by Isaiah8V30 in

please read the blog and watch the video.. http://matthewsgeneration.blogspot.com/.

here's the intro to my blog:.

if the scriptures in the bible are really true, then at some time we should be able to measure them against tangible events, which are actually occurring in our recent history.

OBVES

We must have the time frame to put things in place with the best possible explanation.

Since I have established the time frame for the Book of Revelation : 1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1991 AD + I have a good sound starting point to explain who are the two beast we find described in the Book of Revelation.

The most important period is 1984 AD - 1991 AD in this sense it reflects the period 29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD as the basis for the new religious system.: christian faith.

The apostle John in a vision of the end-times saw evidently our earth in form of Globe in space looking down from the North Pole !

He saw great powers in working that will oppose God's End Time Good News.

If you still have a geographical globe from before 1984 AD put it on a table and look down to it - from the North Pole down and have Russia on the bottom.

The USSR at that time was a red beast running westwards ( the political borders of the Soviet Union resembled a shape of the beast running ) . And we count the heads of the beast in the western part : Lotva,Lithuania,Estonia,Russian Kalinningrad region as part of the Russian Republic, Belorussia ,Ukraine,Moldavia = 7 republics as 7 heads and the 8th is the whole Russian Republic .

Then we look for 10 horns those of sattellites of the Red Russia : Poland,East Germany,Czechoslovakia,Rumania,Bulgaria,Hungary which is 6 and Communist China,Mongolia,North Vietnam ,North Korea as 4 horns remaining.

This was a symbol or code to recognize we are in the end-times as Soviet Union represented atheism or hostile attitude towards God Yahweh and his people .The enmity against God Yahweh shared by many people will be that red beast then .It is like an idea that had its reflection on a political map as political systems man built will be removed by God Yahweh .

And in 1991 AD the communism collapsed .Since it was a summary of man's all political systems that were before and it was like the end of the world in 1991 AD which will be finalized in 2011 AD ; exactly like renegade Israel was destroyed in 607 BC - 587 BC = 20 years.

So , the end of the world I was predicting for 1991 AD happened that year but in a way I didn't understand earlier .

And we have 20 years left from 1991 AD for the finale ! 1991 AD + 20 years = 2011 AD.

1950 AD - 1984 AD stands for 36 AD - 70 AD in my calculations which is 34 years .

34 years was to the second destruction of Jerusalem temple - 70 AD. The dates 1950 AD,1984 AD,1991 AD these are my God-given dates and they relate to the destruction of the false christian religious system .Where is the Bible there is a holy place today ! But to most false christians it is a corrupted holy place and called the abomination of desolation as prophet Daniel wrote .

Evidently God Yahweh is going to use me to destroy all world main-stream christian religions and the teachings I am proclaiming point to that mission .

I have come with explanations in time frame 1914 AD -1984 AD -1991 AD .I am like that one individual as given in Luke 9.49-50 where you can read about a single independent disciple of Christ working on his own and yet not denying those who are a small united group of disciples that were with Christ.

The first beast is now clear understood and now what is the second beast and again we must be in the period of 1984 AD - 1991 AD.

When we look below the first beast on the Globe we can see Italy in shape of a leg or two lamb's horns at the Alpes mountains. It is there we look for the meaning of the second beast and the number 666. Roman Empire with the dates 81 BC ,63 BC,37 BC as put by the Watchtower is the predecessor of that second beast and Roman Catholic Empire is that revived Old Roman Empire.

81 BC in my calculations has its year in our times 1920 AD. 81 is reversal of 18 . 1920 = 9x2 = 18 which is 6+6+6 = 18 81 BC - 18 = 63 BC (6x3=18 )

There was a period 29 AD - 33 AD - 36 AD 29 - 2x9=18 36 - 3x6=18

We must place that Roman Empire in our times : 1920 AD - 1984 AD - 1991 AD as 29 AD - 36 AD = 1984 Ad - 1991 AD

Pope John Paul II symbolized that spirit of Pagan Roman Empire and the spirit of antichrist. He had mark of 85 which is the mark of the last hour : 85 years as 1914 AD - 1999 AD . 1914 AD - 1920 AD = 6 1999 AD -2005 AD = 6 years 6 and 6 = 66 and that is the number of books each Bible should have at least .

So the religious views pope John Paul II represented were a core of the second beast . Pope and clergy and pastors of all false christian religions share in that ! The false teachings of these great in world's eyes people are the second beast of the Apocalypse .

Since I can enlarge the final tribulation to the period 1914 AD - 1999 AD we can now see the end-time era much clearer as we head towards the final years of 20-year period with the date 2011 AD as the year all false religions will die out with the people who follow them.

The Red beast who is the first is the enmity against God from 1984 AD - 1991 AD.The second beasts represented by popes and clergy and pastors with their false teachings as opposed to those whom God Yahweh recognizes as His true servants : the remnant of 144000 .I am the last one that closed the list and I am an independent servant to fulfill God's plan as in Luke 9.49-50.

Could it be we will have the same scenario as the Jewish tradition holds : there was one man warning the Christians and the Jews about the impending destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD and I believe that must have been that one individual that is spoken of in Luke 9.49-50.

I am so glad that God Yahweh in His Beloved Son Yahshua the Messiah bestowed upon me such a wonderful mission to bring down all false religions ! HalleluYAH ! Amen. So be it in 2011 AD .

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"If 1000 years is as one day" (another "ug" fwd email)

by inkling in

if 1000 years is as one day someone did the math of the 1000 years = one day equation (2 peter 3:8).. .

this is interesting: since a thousand years are in the eyes of jehovah as one day, we can look at history from jehovah's point of view like this:.

adam was created six days ago and jehovah made immediate plans to restore what he had lost for his offspring.. .

OBVES

It's happening right now before our eyes and it has been happening since 1984 AD. It's OBVES : an obvious sign we are living in the final end-times !

This is must be a fantastic - that is to say extraordinary- period in the history of mankind.

Don't stay behind you just learn how the Bible is understood today ,not what people wrote long time before in thed end-times as the understanding of the Bible increased lately immensely.

You will do good if you check on the internet how calculations based on the Bible were made before 1984 AD and how are they made now and who is making these calculations and what is the purpose in making such calculations.

The year 1984 AD opened the gates to the new way of calculating using the Bible.

70 weeks = 7 Times 70 days = "7 Times " //+// " 70 days " =2520 years = 70 years

1984 AD - 70 years = 1914 AD 1914 AD - 2520 years = 607 BC

7 weeks = 7 Times 7 days = " 7 Times" ///+/// "7 years = 2520 years + 7 years

1984 AD + 7 years = 1991 AD

1984 AD - 2520 years = 537 BC

1034 AD - 7 years = 1027 BC 1027 BC - 420 years which also means "7 Times" = 607 BC

1034 BC + 7 weeks or 7 years + 420 years = 607 BC

1027 BC + 70 weeks or 420 years + 70 years = 537 BC

1034 BC - 1027 BC - 607 BC - 537 BC - 1984 AD - 1991 AD

7 weeks + 70 weeks + 7 weeks

1034 BC - 1027 BC = 1984 AD-1991 AD

1027 BC - 537 BC = 1984 AD- 607 BC as 420 years + 70 years = 70 years + 2520 years

2520 years = 420 years as "7 Times "

70 weeks = 7 Times 70 days = 7 Times as 420 years + 70 years for 70 days = 490 days = 490 years.The clue to understand 70 weeks and 7 weeks lies in this :

7 weeks = 7 times 7 days = 7 times 7 years = 49 years We can seperate " 7 times" from 7 years and get the same result !

7 weeks = "7 times " + 7 years = 42 years + 7 years . So it is clear "7 Times" can take on a special meaning. In this case "
7 times = 42 years .

70 weeks will be : 7 times as 420 years + 70 years = 490 days = 490 years

7 times = 420 years = 42 years and it was known for a long time that 7 times mean 2520 years.

7 times 360 days in a year = 2520 days = 2520 years if Ezekiel 4.6 : one day = one year is applied.

420 years is 1/6 of 2520 years and 42 years is 1/10 of 420 years 10x6 = 60

We can add 60 years to the whole chronology of mankind based on 7 Times.

6000 years can be as 6060 years

The whole weekl for mankind is 7070 years as 7 days.

4027 BC - 4010 BC - ...... 1991 AD ... 2011 AD ... 2012 AD - 2034 AD ..... 1000 years ... 10 years = 3044 AD

4027 BC + 7070 years = 3044 AD

The 1000-year Kingdom of God will be established in 2034 AD.

Note 42 years x 6 = 252 years and that is reflected in the Hebrew alphabet of 22 letters each one having numerical order.

1 to 22 .

7 times = 1x2x3x4x5x6x7 is the same as 2x3x4x5x6x7 = 5040 7 Times here can mean 2 x 2520 years !

We can omit "one" and by adding 2+3+4+5+6+7 + ...... + 20 + 21 + 22 = 252 !

We must use God's name numerical values and the Bible with Hebrew 22-letter alphabet and 7 Times to understand God,the Bible ,the end-times and find the true christian religion and to decode mankind's chronology !

"I can sleep well on these numbers "

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Understanding Obves

by tula in

this might enlighten some of the crowd.

http://www.netrover.com/~numbers/.

although, i do think obves has a bit of his own spin on things..

OBVES

I am not making bones about it .You should verify my calculations against the calculations other people are doing if possible.

The only challenge up to now I see in Harold Camping's calculations . He is really the best on radio and tv earthwide.

Note he is 86-years old but with the intelligence he has as he shows on religious issues he beats many a man. He is peculiar example in all history of religion counting with after 150 AD .

He has calculations of his own and came up with the same date 2011 AD.

I don't see anyone else to come close to him .

He made prediction well based on the Bible for 1994 AD as I did . That prediction though unfulfilled catapulted him to the very high level .

That is why I have good reasons to see him as my greatest challenger or opponent.

The dates 1914 AD , 1991 AD,1994 AD are very fine indicative dates.

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If the end does not come in 10 years then...........

by TooBad TooSad in

if the end does not come in 10 years then nothing is going to change.

here is my reasoning.. in our hall we have friends whose grandparents thought the end was coming in 1914 then in 1925.. well they died and still our friends believe the end is near.

our friends had parents who.

OBVES

If you know my posts I have better reasons to believe the end of the world will come in 2011 AD .

Suppose you left all your possessions behind you if the end doesn't come you will still live and have hands to work and start all over again.

Mexicans - may be you saw them crossing the borders with almost empty hands -come illegally and all of a sudden they are on their feet and have big money and build big houses and have big cars etc. If you are legal you can do it much better for sure , if you only want .

The real question is what if the end comes ?

It is coming soon !

How " soon" is soon ?

And now you can see how many doubters are dead wrong on the word : soon in the Bible as to the end of the world.

You need imagination here .

The whole 6 day period take as one day .

I will show you how I do it.

4010 BC - 3010 BC - 2010 BC - 1010 BC - 10 BC - 991 AD - 1991 AD = 6000 years

60 years 4027 BC- 4010 BC =17 years 10 BC - 11 AD = 20 years 2011 AD - 2034 AD = 23 years

17+20+23 = 60 years

We are taking only : 11 AD - 2011 AD as 2000-year period.

One day has 24 hours and in the Biblical days a day began with the morning.

6 AM + 24 hours as 6000 years for simplicity .

6 AM - 2 PM = 2000 years = 2 days 2 PM -10 PM = 2000 years

10 PM-6 AM the last two days as 2000 years : 11 AD-2011 AD.

If I go to bed at 10 PM I know that in a moment I am going to fall asleep and there is no time elapse in sleep.

So in sleeping hours I can say soon 6 AM will come .Even before going to bed I can say the day is almost finished and the remaining 2000 years as 8 hours are as " soon ".

Consider the last days of the week of 6 days : Thursday and Friday as 2000 years = 2 last days = 11 AD-2011 AD

The period is the last part of the week and we can say the week will end soon !

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"If 1000 years is as one day" (another "ug" fwd email)

by inkling in

if 1000 years is as one day someone did the math of the 1000 years = one day equation (2 peter 3:8).. .

this is interesting: since a thousand years are in the eyes of jehovah as one day, we can look at history from jehovah's point of view like this:.

adam was created six days ago and jehovah made immediate plans to restore what he had lost for his offspring.. .

OBVES

Just click on author OBVES and see what I have written on the end-times.I have fantastic reasons to believe what I am writing.

You can challenge my calculations using the Bible and by presenting your calculations .

The day of 1010 years is justified by the dates that the Watchtower established long time ago without any collusion between us.

1037 BC - 1034 BC - 1027 BC ,607 BC and 537 BC are in their chronology .

1037 BC - 1994 AD = 3030 years which implies 3 days each 1010 years.

1037 BC + 3 years + 7 years + 420 years + 70 years + 2520 years + 7 years + 3 years = 1994 AD

7 years + 420 years = 7 weeks of Daniel 420 years + 70 years = 70 weeks of Daniel

2520 years + 7 years = 7 weeks of Daniel

1034 BC + 7 weeks + 70 weeks + 7 weeks = 1991 AD

3 years + ................................................. + 3 years

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"If 1000 years is as one day" (another "ug" fwd email)

by inkling in

if 1000 years is as one day someone did the math of the 1000 years = one day equation (2 peter 3:8).. .

this is interesting: since a thousand years are in the eyes of jehovah as one day, we can look at history from jehovah's point of view like this:.

adam was created six days ago and jehovah made immediate plans to restore what he had lost for his offspring.. .

OBVES

4010 BC - 3010 BC - 2010 BC - 1010 BC - 10 BC - 991 AD - 1991 AD = 6 days each day 1000 years = 6000 years

Also one day can mean 1010 years as in timeline:

1037 BC -1034 BC - 1027 BC - 607 BC - 537 BC - 1914 AD - 1984 AD - 1991 AD - 1994 AD = 3030 years

10 BC + 2000 years + 20 years = 2011 AD- the last two days of 6 days for the present evil world order.

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"If 1000 years is as one day" (another "ug" fwd email)

by inkling in

if 1000 years is as one day someone did the math of the 1000 years = one day equation (2 peter 3:8).. .

this is interesting: since a thousand years are in the eyes of jehovah as one day, we can look at history from jehovah's point of view like this:.

adam was created six days ago and jehovah made immediate plans to restore what he had lost for his offspring.. .

OBVES

That is a question each ane every one should ask themselves. Then you will not come up with strange ideas.

Those who are true servants of God Yahweh today being a part of the 144000 class should interpret the Bible in the light of the right understanding of the Bible- Matthew 24.45-46 ; Luke 9.49-50;Isaiah 28.9-10

If you check my posts very well you may notice how the formula 1000 years for one day works for mankind .

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If the end does not come in 10 years then...........

by TooBad TooSad in

if the end does not come in 10 years then nothing is going to change.

here is my reasoning.. in our hall we have friends whose grandparents thought the end was coming in 1914 then in 1925.. well they died and still our friends believe the end is near.

our friends had parents who.

OBVES

So , how many dates for the end of the world the Bible Students made ? If you know my posts I have made numerous predictions of the end and these are I consider to have been very strong as they were built on the understanding of the Bible:

The first could have been a period : 1973 AD - 1977 AD back then when I was in catholic religion.

Then 1991 AD, 1994 AD, 1999 AD,2000 AD,2001 AD,2004 AD,2005 AD and now the year 2011 AD is coming and I can add 2012 AD and then 2017 AD-2018 AD, 2033 AD - 2036 AD with the year 2034 AD as the best in the period.

Count them and compare with the predictions made by the Watchtower.

Note here that I am asking you to list all the prediction dates made by the Watchtower or those who claimed to be servants as a part of that class of 144000 menservants.

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If the end does not come in 10 years then...........

by TooBad TooSad in

if the end does not come in 10 years then nothing is going to change.

here is my reasoning.. in our hall we have friends whose grandparents thought the end was coming in 1914 then in 1925.. well they died and still our friends believe the end is near.

our friends had parents who.

OBVES

You make a cardinal error if you think that true christians are not to be deeply involved in thinking about the end of the world !

It is the Bible itself that speaks about the end of the world coming. The true religion was Jewish religion and Jews gave us God's Word . And that Word speaks a lot about the end of the world like no other sacred book !

So by this feature alone the Bible is distinctive book and the true christianity based on the Bible must be distinctive from all other religions.

The fact we as true servants of God Yahweh are waging fight with our sinful nature is already the end of the world taking place in our lives.

Look at fans who are ready to stand in line for hours and pay enormous amount of money to see the sport in action - how many details they learn about the sport events or players and now compare yourself to them what a person you should be if think you like God and want to get into the Paradise ? Would you not be interested in things related to when that day may come ? And the Bible has a lot of things to say about that.

I began preaching the end some 34-35 years ago and I was in that mood of predicting the end for quite a good time. Whenever I stopped thinking about the end I made horrible errors in my life .See my posts on usenet how many posts I have made with calculations that concern a lot the end of the world predictions.It is right now my favorite activity .

What would have happened had I joined the ranks of people who are fans of worldly music , movies or sports to live a normal life ?!

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Divine plan of the ages

by confused and lost in

whilst reading the chapter entitled "our lords return" in russells book "divine plan of the ages" i came across these interesting quotes :

to this last view the majority of christians of all denominations assent (notwithstanding the creeds of some to the contrary), from a feeling that any other view would be irreconcilable with justice on god's part.

but do the scriptures support this last view?

OBVES

I strongly believe we are in the times when the best understanding
of the Bible is available to mankind and we can prove the Bible is
applicable to our times and that we must live in the end-times.
Once we understand that we are on the right track . Don't tell me we
must be ready all the time to meet the Creator and we cannot know the
time of the end of the world.
I am riding on byke and only last year I was at least two times in
close encounter with death in accidents .
So, I know by that how I should be ready constantly for sudden death
and yet I am the person who is preoccupied with the calculations based
on the Bible in a peculiar way as you can notice when you read my
posts with numbers.
The numbers I am using may overwhelm you but it is like a drop in an
ocean when you go and see how numbers are used in a investment fund
or bank or Wall Street. Even what sports fan know about numbers in
sport .
The calculations I am giving are so simple that a 10-year old child
should understand . You need to know some algebra and how abacore
works . Abacore is an ancient instrument for simple calculations and
that simple tool beats up all computers we have today !

Daniel 12.4 speaks about times of great understanding and this verse
is being fulfilled right before our eyes today.

The period of that understanding is unmistakenly as 1984 AD - 2011 AD.

In 1984 AD is the basic year of the decoding mankind's chronology
and end-times. I came up with this timeline or I can call it a calendar formula:

4010 BC,3010 BC,2010 BC,1010 BC,10 BC,991 AD,1991 AD,2991 AD
7 symbolic days each of 1000 years =one symbolic week = 7000 years

The last two days of 6000 years of the present world order are :
Thursday,Friday : 10 BC - 1991 AD.

This old timeline stands today but we must add 10 years to each day of
1000 years .
4027 BC - From Adam to 1974 AD = 6000 years + 60 years = 2034 AD

We must have 2020 years since 10 BC . 10 BC + 2020 years for two days
= 2011 AD !
We must place the whole 60-year period appropriately .
1974 AD - 2034 AD and we must locate the parts of this period :
subperiods.

4027 BC - 4010 BC - Adam sinned in 4010 BC. = 17 years
1974 AD + 17 years = 1991 AD
29 AD - 36 AD = 7 years for the time of Jesus Christ and his first
disciples
1991 AD + 7 years = 1998 AD

Since we place the 10-year periods at the end we can do this:
1000 years : 12 hours for a day - John 11.9 = 83 years ( rounded)
That period is 36 AD - 119 AD- the last hour in the ancient times.

2020 - 1000 = 1020 1020 : 12 = 85 years
This 85 years we put at the end times that come in our times !
1914 AD + 85 years = 1999 AD

1010 normal day has : 1010 : 12 = 84 years + 2 years left
The normal hour is 84 years .
83 + 85 = 168 168 : 2 = 84

God's name with numerical values as I had shown : 26,28,30 makes a total of 84 ! 26+28+30 = 84

6 days of 6060 years have 6 x 2 years as leftover which is 12 years .

1999 AD + 12 years = 2011 AD

Since the year 106 AD is 10 -years already as per Revelation 2.10
about 10 days.
96 AD + 10 years = 106 AD we can cut 13 years from 36 AD - 119 AD to
make it 36 AD - 106 AD.
96 AD - The Revelation was given and "these things are going to come
to pass soon " - Revelation 1.1-3.

1999 AD + 13 years = 2012 AD

2011 AD - 2012 AD = This will be a year when Christ is going to
establish His Government on this earth:
Jesus Christ + his 144000 menservants as "God" and " gods" .

One year fall 2011 AD-2012 AD is for Christ as God's Word.
2012 AD + 22 years is for 22 Hebrew alphabet- Psalm 119 and that
symbolizes the Bible - Word of God .
All major resurrection will take place in 2011 AD - 2012 AD - 2034 AD.
Many will learn the Truth in that period . I hope I will teach nations
my calculations which magnify God Yahweh as the Only True God , His
Love ,Truth and Mercy and Wisdom and Power through His Son Yahshua
the Messiah. Really I can call these calculations divine as they
belong to God Yahweh.

So, we have 1974 AD + 17 years + 7 years + 1 year + 12 years + 1 year
+ 22 years which is sought 60 years to 2034 AD.
Then we going to have the 1000-year Kingdom of God on earth to 3034
AD. Children and good pagans chosen by God will have a chance to live
for ever -This is also the time of resurection then.

And we know now that 1010 years have 10 years at the end .
3034 AD + 10 years from 7th 1010-year period = 3044 AD
This time all yet uncondemned evil doers will be made alive for a
short time to test those who are saved but have not be tested yet .
And those evil people will be dying off for ever throughout this 10-
year period.
Then in 3044 AD the eterenity will begin for those who loved and
love God Yahweh and His Son Jesus Christ.

4027 BC + 7 days or 7070 years = 3044 AD
4027 BC + 6 days or 6060 years = 1974 AD - 2034 AD
10 BC + 2 last days or 2020 years = 1991 AD - 2011 AD
That is why the year 2011 AD is the next best prediction of the end of
the world. Can you imagine we are less than 4 years to that time ?!