Posts by iCeltic

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The antidote to the myth that JWs are declining

by slimboyfat in

one of the most persistent myths on this website is that jws are already in decline, the rot has set in, and the descent of the watchtower is inevitable from here on in.

unfortunately the facts do not bear this out.

jws are still increasing even in most developing countries, and they are still growing worldwide at a faster rate than the general population.

iCeltic

I thnk the reduction in hours for a pioneer is a massive reason why there are many more now. I'm not sure what the reg hours are now, I think it's 60? That a massive difference from 90 when you are also trying to earn a living at the same time.

i know the cong I was part of in Scotland years ago has decreased. I am very good friends with an ex elder who left just 2 years ago, he was telling me when he was an elder in 2011 there were only 3 elders in the hall. There was something like 15 when I was there.

Figures are deceiving. Whether there are more jw's now, less, more or less elders, more or less pioneers, what difference does it make? It could increase 10 fold and it wouldn't be any more true than it is today. Something is still false whether 10 believe it or 10 million.

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For Those who believe the Bible is truly the word of God

by sosoconfused in

what exactly is the reason?.

i am not an athiest or agnostic... i definately believe in god.

however i would honestly like to hear others explain to me why they believe the bible is truly the word of god.. .

iCeltic

I agree with cofty, the bible mentioning something in it that says its from god isn't a strong argument. Or any argument at all.

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The antidote to the myth that JWs are declining

by slimboyfat in

one of the most persistent myths on this website is that jws are already in decline, the rot has set in, and the descent of the watchtower is inevitable from here on in.

unfortunately the facts do not bear this out.

jws are still increasing even in most developing countries, and they are still growing worldwide at a faster rate than the general population.

iCeltic

I left in 2000, no idea how many more there are since then.

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Letter from and to my JW Niece

by Nosferatu in

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my niece is on fb.

she's a very creative and lovely person, but she's the only other family member i have who's a jw.

her mother got booted out for smoking, and her brother just seems to know it's a bunch of crap.. on fb, i posted a funny status update that went something like this: "my mother brought me up and hoped that i would grow into a career that would fulfill her dreams.

iCeltic

I love this suit doesn't fit's response. Perfect.

Hopefully the girl will learn soon the truth behind the WTBS.

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Unbelievable Experience in Yearbook

by gingerbread in

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a number of years back i heard a story of a young girl in a congregation ( i have some good friends in this hall ) who had an amazing field service experience.

it was so amazing that it was retold in the 2007 yearbook!.

it is retold in the highlight of the past year section.

iCeltic

I can remember being on the assembly platform giving an 'experience'....even though I didn't have an experience to give, they wanted me since I was a fire breathing newbie. Same with a mate of mine on the same day. Just all bollocks really.

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How can one understand unusual personal experiences such as when going from door-to-door?

by Fernando in

given that i know how corrupt, dishonest and evil the watchtower is, i have wondered how to understand a personal experience i had many years ago - long before walking out mid-2009.. after an unusual series of many "co-incidences" on a particular sunday, my friend and i ended up at the door of someone who had been praying to god for someone to be sent to him, and who was expecting us.. i am still convinced it was by divine intervention, but cannot understand why a prayer is answered by sending representatives of an apostate organisation.. also when taking up residence in a foreign country, under very difficult circumstances, i twice ended up "inadvertently" moving in to homes just around the corner from the kh.

on one occasion it was about a 15 metre walk from my front door right into my seat in the kh!.

have you had similar experiences?.

iCeltic

What Phizzy said.

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Millions now living will never die - false prophecy yet?

by slimboyfat in

rutherford wrote the booklet of that name in 1920. is that definitively a false prophecy yet?

even if everyone who was alive in 1920 survived armageddon, if it was to come today, would that amount to millions of people?

according to wikipedia there are 316,600 people who are a 100 years old or older.

iCeltic

When belief after belief of jw'dom has been shown to be false it's a wonder that people still consider what Rutherford said at all, in my view. Technically it's not been proven false if millions of people alive in 1920 are still alive (I was visiting someone today who was born in 1919) but given the track record it's hard to consider him/them credible with regard to anything.

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Question for the married guys

by TweetieBird in

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is it possible to be friends with a woman, text her, call her, etc and not be physically attracted to her?.

iCeltic

A whole host of things come to mind.

a friend that is also a friend of your wife?

does your wife know about her?

is she aware you are married?

motive from both parties?

and sometimes there may be no attraction from one party but there is from the other, that rarely turns out well.

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Valedictorian Rips Up Preapproved Speech, Recites Prayer Instead

by Sam Whiskey in

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really proud of this young man for his speech.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nir4zbz18e.

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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/valedictorian-rips-preapproved-speech-recites-prayer-instead-172941933.html.

iCeltic

It's been mentioned but there's been point after point repeated simply because people can't seem to grasp it, or simply refuse to.

The lad said the lords prayer, hardly original so it wasn't his own words. That surely isn't in despute. If the lad fell to his knees and said," Allahu Akbur, Allahu Akbur, Ashadu anna Muhammadan rasoolullah" (excuse if I got that wrong) which in my view is in no way different to a christian saying the so called lords prayer, can there be any disputing the fact that there would have been an outcry? honestly?

Would that have been viewed by the American public at large as harmless religious speech? I can only speak for myself and say no, I think that would have caused a problem or two. Just my opinion.

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Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?

by cantleave in

"without god in your life, you cannot have a moral compass",,,, please explain to me why you think that should be so?

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iCeltic

Apologies, of course you are correct. I should have stated that I was referring only to Christians who believe in the god of the bible. Sorry I wasn't clear on that. :)