Again, I say that it takes the wind out of the sails of the movement being that the leader is a fader who is still in and having his cake and eating it too. It just diminishes the effectiveness! Sorry but it does!
NR
here's the thing,.
the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.
period.
Again, I say that it takes the wind out of the sails of the movement being that the leader is a fader who is still in and having his cake and eating it too. It just diminishes the effectiveness! Sorry but it does!
NR
here's the thing,.
the whole aawa idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board.
period.
Here's the thing,
The whole AAWA idea had noble ideas behind it, but the ship has sailed and the movement needs to go back to the drawing board. Period. Also, I have plenty of respect for Cedars and enjoy some of his articles and appreciate the research he does on his own site. But..........It makes it pretty difficult for people to take on positions of note (like trying to lead an activist group to organize against the Watchtower) when you're still a secret "apostate". It creates paralysis and discord when so many high-level officials in a movement can't be themselves fully and operate with a constant nagging fear of being outed. I just hate to see this whole deal causing us to be counterproductive and turning on each other! That is exactly what the WT wants! (It reminds me of the People's Front of Judea if any of you remember the Monty Python reference.)
Anyway, I know a lot of you had good intentions in all of this but we need to move past this all and go back to the drawing board! I hope you can all calm down and remember who our true enemy is and move on!
Good night and good luck!
No Regrets
i consider myself more a "moderate" in my thinking, whether it be politically or otherwise..
Left of center. Moderate democrat. VERY pro-labor and pro-middle class.
so one of my best friends has been dfed for many years.
his invalid grandmother slipped into a coma is likely to pass away soon.
he went to the hospital to see her before her time.
Flipper- You are one of the kindest posters on this board and are very special and beloved by all! Thank you for being you and keep up the great work of being so loving!
No Regrets
so one of my best friends has been dfed for many years.
his invalid grandmother slipped into a coma is likely to pass away soon.
he went to the hospital to see her before her time.
Thanks everyone. BTW Cobalt, I'm not a niece. I'm a he and unrelated to my friend. It's his story that I'm so disgusted by! NR
so one of my best friends has been dfed for many years.
his invalid grandmother slipped into a coma is likely to pass away soon.
he went to the hospital to see her before her time.
So last night, he was visiting her before going to work at his night job. One of his extra-crazy JW aunts grabbed his hand and grandma's and said "she wants you to see her in the new system! To see her young again!" So despicable and sickening!
No Regrets
so one of my best friends has been dfed for many years.
his invalid grandmother slipped into a coma is likely to pass away soon.
he went to the hospital to see her before her time.
So one of my best friends has been DFed for many years. His invalid grandmother slipped into a coma is likely to pass away soon. He went to the hospital to see her before her time. Most all of his family are still JWs and his uncle was the longtime P.O./now C.O.B.E. Apparently his JW family thought this would be a great time to try to "witness" to him. The elder uncle said "if you were in good standing, you would have all of your friends to help you through this difficult time". Unf#&$ing believable! That is so despicable! My friend replied that he had many friends now, including me, which made the uncle bristle at the mention of my name as a friend! Rather than be happy he said what a bitter guy I am! (Which I'm truly not, I'm happier than ever. Furthermore, he would have no idea what I'm like now as I have seen or talked to none of those people for years!) I think we know who the bitter ones are when they find out that we have moved on and made new and better friends and relationships!!!
No Regrets
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the governing body took us along to an unusually high mountain, and showed us all the friends and family members that had been ripped away and they said to us.... .
all these people we will give back to you if you fall down and do an act of worship to us.
That is a heartbreaking but spot on analogy!
he decided to take me somewhere nice in the country for a day instead, and when he suggested it last night i was amazed that he would have even thought of missing the meeting!
he was one of those guys who only missed a meeting, literally, if he had a spinal injury and couldn't move!.
but, i've been sharing a little of the ttatt with him, teensy tiny bits that i can substantiate from the bible or other reputable sources.
Good luck and best wishes with this situation! Sometimes a bump in the road of life is what it takes to jar loose from the mind control of the Watchtower! Have a wonderful Sunday together! No Regrets
"that which can be asserted without evidence, can.
be dismissed without evidence.
" - christopher hitchens.
Welcome Shirley! I can't wait to read more of your posts! I really liked the intellectual development of your story! You will be a huge asset to this forum and hope to hear more detailed stories of your experiences of rubbing elbows with the "heavy-hitters" of the org.! Great to have you!!! No Regrets