Posts by MarkofCane

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Just because the JW'S are wrong doesnt mean theres no god.

by atomant in

l;ve been giving this some serious consideration lately.l dont have all the answers no one does.we are all entitled to our opinions.l certainly dont believe in evolution as lve researched that subject extensively.lt's important to believe in something even if its for mental health.l believe everything happens for a reason.l also believe if we all live as close to the 10 commandments as possible this world would be a far better place to live and no one can argue with that.

MarkofCane

Your right, God has nothing to do with the validation of the JW's religion. They are just another religion out of 80'000 plus that inhabit the earth with a message of "do as I do or die, because God said so". The Ten commandments are just some basic laws created to control some very simple minded people. Read them over and over do you really think God would say that. I could come up with more creative things to say, to impress a very primitive people. Example “You shall have no other gods before me"

Really, so God has no power to remove these other gods from the land because he is just another man made god. The power is in the people to decide not to have another god before them. If they do then the elder's or men in charge have the authority to murder you for disobeying said "god". Which is a contradiction of the “You shall not murder.

These primitive laws give these men permission to murder when it violates there laws that they invented to control simple, primitive people.

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"Ridiculous Claim"...?

by stuckinarut2 in

interesting, yet thought provoking video regarding how beliefs are taught or promoted...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y201qzddzbg.

MarkofCane

Great video! Would love to show it to my wife...she would just say "it's just a ridiculous claim".

Thumbs up on the video.

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I can't take it anymore!

by BlackWolf in

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friends

my dad was recently made an elder about maybe 6 months ago, and now he is never around he's always at work or doing some kind of jw crap.

now he conducts the watchtower study and is even doing the special talk tommorow.

he's become an even more strict controlling jerk than he was before, and i'm never allowed to go out and do anything non jw related because he doesn't have the time.

MarkofCane

Still in

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1958 Convention Program. 8 days from 9am till 9pm. Anyone attend?

by StopTheTears in

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friends

how in the world did they justify this torture?

imagine the children forced to sit in the summer heat at yankee stadium for 12 hours a day.

for 8 days.

MarkofCane

I'm to young to have experienced any of the 10-12 hr days. I can only imagine how horrible it must of been, I can't even stomach 1 hr of that nonsense anymore. But I think our past has the ability to make us stronger and more resilient human beings. But I do agree it must of been pure torture.

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Did you participate in a Drama?

by Hecce in

i am bringing this up because even it was a lot of work, for the majority of the friends this was a rewarding experience.

camaraderie, joking, costumes, props and when the time came the celebrity status of being in the drama.. back in the 50s and 60s, conventions could be as long as 8 days and from about 1966 the dramas became an integral part of the program.

we had one per day and the brothers looked forward to their presentation.

MarkofCane

Helped out in the Potiphar and Joseph Drama, I believe it was 2013, I was waking up at the time and it was a very difficult thing to be a part of, It was like living in a fantasy, nobody was real to me anymore, people were fake, elders were pea cocking there brilliant colors so everyone could see there worth, the prominent elder family's were in the drama, some living double lives. I was just a spectator with skills, it really felt like The Twilight Zone.

Beyond it is another dimension—a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into the Twilight Zone.

Because of my building skills I was asked to help with the props and stage. We drove all the props and costumes to the Convention, my friends truck and trailer broke down on the way to the convention and the CO was pissed, his true self came out, it was quit the sight to see. I think he was worried about answering to the DO about the whole fiasco. We recovered and the show went on. One thing I remember is how I felt through the whole thing, I was seeing the lies and manipulation of the whole organisation and the drama was part of there arsenal, I was troubled contributing to there propaganda and lies. After this my fade became apparent and now i'm involved in a different drama called "unplugged"

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Out on Facebook

by disillusioned 2 in

i am just venting because my sister has put on facebook that i am no longer "in the truth"!

i have kept a very low profile for years and have silently faded.

many witnesses i have bumped into are very friendly towards me, some from other congregations may not even be aware that i dont go anymore.

MarkofCane

It's a form of mental castigation, taught to them by there ruthless leaders. You either return or we will make you look mentally diseased.

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1958 Convention Program. 8 days from 9am till 9pm. Anyone attend?

by StopTheTears in

jw
friends

how in the world did they justify this torture?

imagine the children forced to sit in the summer heat at yankee stadium for 12 hours a day.

for 8 days.

MarkofCane

Found these on my computer, they where sent to me as a reminder of our heritage.

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Awww, you "love and miss us"? Really? Then why ignore us?

by stuckinarut2 in

so we received the obligatory "shoved under the door" memorial invitation and "return to jehovah" brochure the other week.

it also had a hand written note from two elders saying "we love and miss you" etc.... so why then when one of them saw us at the grocery store, did he pretend to not see us and then ignore and quickly walk away?.

the sincerity is wonderful..... dont get me wrong, we dont want any attention from them, but it's an interesting observation anyway.....

MarkofCane

You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension—a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into the Twilight Zone.

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Are you ready for armageddon?

by atomant in

just imagine the panic.disbelief.oh my god they were right.then you pee in your pants.what will l do?the plea for forgiveness.please let me through.l promise l''ll change.l didn;t mean what l said on that jw.com site.l was jokin.then you wake up it was only a dream.disbelief turns to relief.

but it could happen..

MarkofCane

Every religion has its control mechanism's, just like Catholics have Hell, JW's use Armageddon. With out these tactics people would be living normal lives. Relax and know these are religious mind control residual left on your brain. I went through the same thing, its a slow process to unlearn.

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Memorial attendance

by punkofnice in

my spies seem a bit confused.

here, in this neck of the woods 3 congregations had 3 separate sittings.

the attendance seemed to be swelling.

MarkofCane

Down in My area, usually back overfill rooms are full, standing room only. Back book counter, people standing. This year both back rooms empty lights off. No one standing, main auditorium plenty of open chairs. First time back to the hall in about 3 months. We even had a Bethel speaker, go figure.