by 'actively vocal', i do not mean openly criticising the articles and pointing out the inconsistencies or flipflops (not footwear, reversals).
i do mean letting people know that you're finding it hard to understand the new truth, and the fact that there is therefore old truth, or falsities, (is that a word?
it is now), therefore if there are falsehoods (that's the word, of course), then that puts into doubt the extent of jah's involvement in the preparation/dissemination of it all... (and making it clear you're not saying they aren't gods prophets on earth, just that you're not sure, don't know).. the reason i ask is cos i'm finding it hard to completely fade without an external reason.
Man, I feel sorry for you faders. That sucks.
I agree with those that say be careful about incriminating yourself.
One of the grossest things you may have to do: Just act tired.
'I'm tired' / 'I'm exhasusted' / 'I'm
just drained' / etc... feels so crappy to just act like a total deadbeat loser when you have strong moral and intellectual grounds not to go anymore. Better that than df'd? Acting like a total weakling is what worked for me. Very frustrating... but it worked.
for me .... 1).
last district convention after having 'read up' (took some family to it).. 2).
last 'meeting' to watch step-father-in-law finally get his and get disfellowshipped for molestation.. ...both were taking vodka shots in the bathroom.. i'm sure there's lots of good stories out there..
haha, yeah, I came in as a youngster in '85'ish. Your ways were old light.
That's awesome. I can just see inappropriate groping of the sundresses blamed on the menu! Not to mention the 70's were just overall sleazy to begin with. Cool beans.
for some reason my neighborhood gets worked over by the jws constantly.
they are here every week going up and down the streets.
it's a comfortable, safe neighborhood with nice houses.
Immediate possible comments when you were out of earshot:
"He's too smart for the truth"
or
"He's already living in his paradise" (you mentioned you are in a nice neighbourhood)
the opening chapter of dawkins "the god delusion" talks about some quotes of albert einstein taken out of context to imply that he believed in a traditional god or supported religious views of god.. i'm pretty sure i've read einstein quotes in the watchtower publications doing this exact thing - anyone else?.
the opening chapter of dawkins "the god delusion" talks about some quotes of albert einstein taken out of context to imply that he believed in a traditional god or supported religious views of god.. i'm pretty sure i've read einstein quotes in the watchtower publications doing this exact thing - anyone else?.
Yeah, a long time ago i remember reading the first few pages of an Einstein book.
Two things struck me...
1). A familiar quote was on page 2 or something - like deep study, eh?
2). A page later (page 3 in this example) there was a thought there's no way the WT would publish.
Fuzzy memory but I remember my wife laughing and agreeing.
Therefore, I must be correct!
owww
western traditioneastern orthodox traditionoriental orthodox traditionassyrian eastern traditionbooksprotestant.
[o 1]roman catholicgreek orthodoxslavonic orthodoxgeorgian orthodoxarmenian apostolic.
(part of 4 esdras)no.
Fine... councils then.
It doesn't specifically say that these councils didn't have hermaphrodites either.
western traditioneastern orthodox traditionoriental orthodox traditionassyrian eastern traditionbooksprotestant.
[o 1]roman catholicgreek orthodoxslavonic orthodoxgeorgian orthodoxarmenian apostolic.
(part of 4 esdras)no.
7th from bottom under 'History' on the above list.
I will say that before a descent into detail is had it would have been nice to have at least one believer comment on the big picture point: That men decided which books are the bible.
a woman i've known for years recently confided in me.
she told me she found out her jw husband had been secretly e-mailing his jw ex-girlfriend.
he was telling his ex about how difficult it had been for him since his wife was now basically an apostate.
Touche.
a woman i've known for years recently confided in me.
she told me she found out her jw husband had been secretly e-mailing his jw ex-girlfriend.
he was telling his ex about how difficult it had been for him since his wife was now basically an apostate.
Messy, messy, messy.
Dirty, dirty, dirty.
