LostintheFog1999
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News Report about CSA.
by LostintheFog1999 inhttps://www.lowellsun.com/2023/01/09/editorial-jehovahs-witnesses-abuse-scandal-is-a-reminder-to-end-cover-up-culture/.
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Serena Williams allegedly baptized this weekend
by neat blue dog in.
not sure if this is fake news or not..
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LostintheFog1999
So where's the photographs of all the other people who were baptized at the JW pool?
I mean we read in James about not showing favouritism to the wealthy people over the poor ones.
Not that I ever saw evidence of it in our previous congregation since those with the riches and lifestyle seemed to get congregation positions bestowed upon them a lot faster than the hardworking blue collar folk.
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bringing up the 1954 Walsh Trial
by enoughisenough ini went back into this forum a little ways and found quite a bit of discussion on the walsh (1954) for those newly out or those who don't know of what i write, you should really check it out.
anyone who is a jw or studying with jw should see material from this trial.
my take away...the printed materials of the wtbts were to believed over the bible and if you didn't believe the wt teachings over the bible, ( even though they admit to false prophesy )you would be disfellowshipped and deserving of death.
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LostintheFog1999
If this post from enoughisenough has piqued your interest and you want to know more, you can find the full 800+ page transcript of the Walsh Trial here online.
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Somehow I think nobody read the memo!
by LostintheFog1999 ini came across an old notebook of mine when we were spring cleaning our attic space.. for some reason i had written down these two references from older wt magazines.. reading over the two of them now i can only think that elders didn't pay any attention to the message either at the time or since.
*** w75 8/1 p. 474 par.
14 elders presiding in a fine way ***.
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LostintheFog1999
I came across an old notebook of mine when we were spring cleaning our attic space.
For some reason I had written down these two references from older WT magazines.
Reading over the two of them now I can only think that elders didn't pay any attention to the message either at the time or since.
*** w75 8/1 p. 474 par. 14 Elders Presiding in a Fine Way ***
"14 All the elders should appreciate their position in relation to the other brothers and sisters in the congregation.
They are not spiritual bosses or spiritual policemen. They do not have to pry into the lives of other members of the congregation or concern themselves with the personal problems of every brother and sister."
*** w66 9/1 p. 539 A Provision for Spiritual Help in Times of Need ***
"It is important for those in the congregation to appreciate why this congregation committee exists. These men should not be viewed as spiritual policemen to be feared. True, the overseer and the two other brothers on the committee watch out for the spiritual welfare of the sheeplike ones in their care, but they are to do so as loving shepherds, tenderly, and not in an arbitrary and dictatorial manner. They are not bosses, but are servants."
Chance would be a fine thing! Especially the 1966 quote about judicial committees not being like spiritual policemen. It's ironic seeing words like "tenderly" in the same paragraph.
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Why Do JW`s still use the Name Jehovah ,when they admitted in the Aid Book that it is not the correct pronunciation of his name ?
by smiddy3 inisn`t that an admittion that they don`t have the "truth" ?
about god ?.
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LostintheFog1999
I read an interesting book about the sacred name of God. A bit long winded in places but I thought the arguments against the English language name Jehovah were sound. Especially with chapter 10. Here's a link to the free book on Issu:
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Have you ever been on a congregation picnic?
by LostintheFog1999 inwere you ever on a congregation picnic?
i was on several occasions.. the arrangements were often announced from the platform after the closing song and prayer by the last elder up on the platform.. sometimes it was included in the service meeting announcements as "on saturday we're meeting at 10.00am at the kingdom hall for field service, and after field service for anyone who wishes, especially for the younger ones, we will be having a congregation picnic meeting at the beach carpark on seaview road.".
well, according to the new elders manual you won't be hearing those words again.
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LostintheFog1999
Were you ever on a congregation picnic? I was on several occasions.
The arrangements were often announced from the platform after the closing song and prayer by the last elder up on the platform.
Sometimes it was included in the Service Meeting Announcements as "on Saturday we're meeting at 10.00am at the Kingdom Hall for Field Service, and after Field Service for anyone who wishes, especially for the younger ones, we will be having a congregation picnic meeting at the beach carpark on Seaview Road."
Well, according to the new Elders Manual you won't be hearing those words again. Lol.
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Should Jehovah's Witnesses Trust the Governing Body?
by Vanderhoven7 inif there is evidence that jesus invisibly chose specific men at headquarters in brooklyn new york in 1919 to be his faithful slave and that mandate and ability passed on to future directors...then the answer might just be a resounding maybe.. what is the evidence for this invisible appointment and what is the evidence that this is just watchtower mythology?.
i hope jws like scholar and fisherman will explain why the trust the gb.. i must be honest, i see no evidence at all to put trust in either the 1919 selection or the current men taking the lead in warwick.
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LostintheFog1999
The problem with believing that God especially picked them in 1918 as regular readers of this website know is that in 1918 they were still advocating prophecies about 1874 all of which had failed.
The two issues I never could make sense of were 1. Who appointed these men to the GB? Answer: their cronies; and 2. How did Jehovah/Jesus talk to them? Answer: He didn't. They discussed a topic and if they had a majority agreement they felt that HS was leading them to the right decision.
In other words, no different from a non-religious board of directors reaching a decision on what direction their business should go.
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Can I block someone who messages me.
by LostintheFog1999 ini keep getting this person who wants me to email them with information already freely available on this website.. i have told him that i have no intention of emailing a total stranger from my personal email address, but they keep sending me this demand.. from bola to lostinthefog1999.
can you tell me how to block this persistent messager?.
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LostintheFog1999
Simon,
My apologies if you think I have erred in relation to this matter. I would like to know how someone who's name I can't find on the users list can message me. I have only replied to them via this website's message option as that is how they messaged me.
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Viruses Killed The Woolly Mammoths.
by LostintheFog1999 ini can remember the original turquoise coloured evolution book produced by the organisation and the numerous public talks around it.
mind-blowing to a gullible youngster growing up in a jw family.. the flood of noah's day when thousands of tons of suspended water fell from the atmosphere and on hitting the cold poles instantly plunged the woolly mammoths into a deep freeze, to the extent that the last mouthful of grass was still there in the mouth in mid-chomp.
you can quickly see why a kid with a fertile imagination was transfixed by those apparently up-to-date scientific discoveries as presented by the wt org!.
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LostintheFog1999
enoughisenough,
It is there in the article. I have highlighted it now.
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Should Jehovah's Witnesses Trust the Governing Body?
by Vanderhoven7 inif there is evidence that jesus invisibly chose specific men at headquarters in brooklyn new york in 1919 to be his faithful slave and that mandate and ability passed on to future directors...then the answer might just be a resounding maybe.. what is the evidence for this invisible appointment and what is the evidence that this is just watchtower mythology?.
i hope jws like scholar and fisherman will explain why the trust the gb.. i must be honest, i see no evidence at all to put trust in either the 1919 selection or the current men taking the lead in warwick.
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LostintheFog1999
“The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction... Of course, Jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food."
That is a quote from The Watchtower of February 2017 study edition pg. 26.
One of the illustrations I learned as a JW involved a glass of refreshing drinking water that had one drop of a virtually undetectable poison in it. It was enough to kill you if you took a sip, though you could never tell by just looking at the glass or even drinking out of it until it was too late. They used this to illustrate other religions, ironically. Their thinking was that even if the teaching of a religion was 99% good, it was the 1% that would kill you. In contrast to the 100% purity of the accurate teachings of the GB/FDS. Except in the above quote they openly admit that they were neither accurate or pure themselves!