Geeeezz!!....Choppin' baby's heads off!!!..I never saw THAT in any of the dramas. Parents are often encouraged to act out Bible stories with their kids to keep it interesting and make the Bible characters real to them. Maximus quoted some figures to the effect that some 88% of young folks leave the organization. If parents started gettin' that graphic when teaching kids about these stories they'd all leave or those left would be psychotic.
Oldhippie
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WORKS of the SOLDIER of JAH
by Amazing init is fifteen hundred years before jesus christ.
an israeli soldier of jah stands ready in his place outside the walls of jericho.
finally, as the walls crumble down, many people of jericho scatter and run, including families with babies in mommy's arm, children clutching their daddy's hand.. an israelite soldier see one of these families, and according to his marching orders, runs after this family.
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Memorial ultimatum
by Ranchette ini recieved this email and thought i'd share:.
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i heard a piece of gossip the other day from a friend in california that i thought was outrageous and right on par for the borg.... it seems a 20-something sister in a southern calafornia congregation has dedided she is one of the annointed much to the chagrin of her elder body.they have tried everything to disuade her from this path.in a last ditch effort to come up with arguments against her, the elders'wives were sic'd on her and they came up with a piece of information that they felt would be useful...it seems this sister is also pregnant with her first child and is very much looking forward to breast-feeding.so the brothers told her that if she wants to partake at the next memorial she can't breastfeed---because the wine would transfer to the milk and the baby is not annointed!this sister is heart-broken,she feels she must choose between her motherly obligation and her spiritual one!.the advice i passed on to her via my grape-vine was to think long and hard what decision she might make if for some reason her baby needed a life-saving blood transfusion...if the borg won't let her take a sip of wine it will surely not let her save her childs life with a transfusion!.
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Oldhippie
LOL!!! You've gotta be kiddin' me!
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Doubt Not!
by silentlambs ini thought you might like to see a fax i just sent to j. r. brown.
you can also pick it up on the front page of the website, you may also read and download the complaint that states the basis of this lawsuit.
run wt run...... silentlambs.
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Oldhippie
1) Are you praying regularly?
2) Are you going in field service regularly?
3) Are you doing personal study?
Note that going in field service is considered therapeutic!
This misguided archaic approach to pedophilia as a moral lapse is wrong-headed. The JW judicial process is just not equipped to deal with this complex illness that needs professional attention.
Come to think of it, that is the formula JWs resort to in every life situation that seems difficult. Much more is needed.
How true....from a perceived lack of spirituality to depression, seems those are the pat answers given to solve the problem. I recently had a discussion with a CO about family counseling. Those were the three questions asked. Although he did not directly discourage it, he suggested that I do examine those three areas first to see if I was doing all I SHOULD be doing.
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R You listening to music as you post?
by Pubsinger ini usually play cds in my cd-rom as i'm posting.
i've been listening to "delirious" for the last hour or so.. just wondered if anyone else is listening to anything good.
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Oldhippie
Listenin' to Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. I'm from the 60's and 70's...love Rock n Roll. It's pretty amazing. Recently went to see the Heartbreakers in San Antonio. My kids went with me. Hope I didn't embarress 'em too much. We seem to share a lot of interest in music.
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Suicide
by troubled inserious question (last one for awhile.
i promise!).
let's say a person has a good heart.
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Oldhippie
Hey Sis,
You are scaring me a little right now. My sister committed suicide 3 years ago last March. I miss her terribly. Please, run...don't walk to your counselor and talk, talk and talk some more. Her death left a big hole in my heart and I am sure that would be true for those who love you, including people you've never actually met such as on this board. Please give yourself the time and the opportunity to sort things out. Nothing is ever as bad as it seems.with hopeful love and encouragement,
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Does GB know 'IT' is a farce? - Yes!
by Amazing ingiven a comment on my brci sound bites, yet another, though now deceased, gb member also stated that the organization's teachings are a farce or fraud.
also, ray franz publications have throughly documented his views from the time he was on the gb and afterwards, as to what he thinks.
it seems that ray also mentioned in crisis of conscience that some of the gb felt that their 1914 doctrine was in serious error while he was there.
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Oldhippie
If by "IT" you are referring to the 1914 doctrine, then obviously without "IT" their entire doctrinal structure becomes a house of cards.
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suicide controversy
by Moxy inive just heard about a suicide here in toronto, a brother, sounds like a family man.
i dont know any details but i was kind of disturbed because its apparently a matter of some controversy.
some feel that they should not attend the funeral since it was a suicide.
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Oldhippie
I have attended funerals for suicide victims. Never gave it a second thought nor did anyone question me about it. For what it is worth, a '77 Watchtower on page 346 indicates that attendance there to comfort those bereaved is a good thing. I am not sure what the society's position was before that nor should it matter now. Simple human decency and compassion would tell you that a family who is trying to cope with such a sad thing needs comfort, not ostracism. I think suicide forces a very uncomfortable introspection on JW's psyche. After all we are the happiest people in the world. Perhaps that is why some shy away from attending such a funeral.
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POLL - Elders vs Molesters
by Amazing ini wish to conduct a legitimate poll, or at least as legitimate as it can get on this forum.
unless you are or were a jw, please do not respond or make comments.
please simply give an answer, without extended comments.
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Oldhippie
I've known 3. All from the same cong.
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When did you think Armageddon would come?
by comment ini was just thinking about this.
having been raised "in the truth" post-1975, i didn't grow up with any specific year in mind.
yes, there was the notion of "this generation will by no means pass away," but by the time i was old enough to think about that concept, the people who were born in 1914 (to stretch it out as far as possible, as the society ultimately did) were still only in their 60's.
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Oldhippie
My dad would invite me to go fishing with him on Sunday morning, he was never a believer, and before I would agree to go with him I would run outside to make sure it didn't look stormy. I was afraid armageddon would show up while I was fishing with my Dad instead of at the meeting. Of course I was excited about the whole '75 thing. In the late 60's I was in High School and most of the older ones felt that the world wouldn't make it till '75. Everything was just too rotten in the world for it to last that long. Got married in '73 and the wife and I never thought we'd have kids before the end. Well, we had kids but never thought they would have to go to school. Well, they went to school but we never thought they would graduate. Well, they graduated and so on and so on.
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My first time "storming" out!!
by lookingnow22 ini "stormed" out of a meeting for the first time in my life tonight.
well, i really just walked really fast, but inside myself i was storming.
anybody catch some of the insolent comments made in the 6/01km?
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Oldhippie
Just wondering? Is there a problem getting enough recruits for Bethel service these days? Does anyone have any insight on this, such as numbers of new volunteers coming in versus numbers leaving?