Bohm, did you carry on reading from there? Unfortunately, the JWN editor won't allow me to break it up. What say you about the rest? Unfortunately, the JWN editor won't allow me to break it up. Both those sources are very knowledgable in their fields. You present a theory, and your peers shoot it down or offer something better. They don't resort to unicorns. Leave those for the kindergarten kids to play with.
Posts by Vidqun
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74There is no doubt that Adam wasn't the first man. How do believers get around that small fact?
by jam inusing bible in determing the date of the creation of adam .
anyone in their right mind believe this to be true in today age.. don,t you think this nullify the whole bible?
the very first book.
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There is no doubt that Adam wasn't the first man. How do believers get around that small fact?
by jam inusing bible in determing the date of the creation of adam .
anyone in their right mind believe this to be true in today age.. don,t you think this nullify the whole bible?
the very first book.
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Vidqun
Jeffro, interesting opinion. Perhaps our definitions should be more flexible. What exactly did the writer of Genesis mean? We just don't know. And do not make the common mistake of trying to dress Genesis (or any of the ancient writings) in a 21st Century jacket. It just won't fit. Here is a few interesting thoughts on the origin of writing and human civilization. Perhaps Adam was the first "civilized" man? Yes, I know it's a theory. If you do not like it, you have to disprove it. The adherents of the theory of a monogenetic origin of writing trace all writing systems to a single system. These discern the following steps in the development of writing: Pictographic writing > logographic writing (one sign, one word) > phonetic system. The oldest system of writing, probably invented in Mesopotamia after 3400 BCE, was a pictographic system. So, for example, a picture of the solar disc meant «sun» and «light». This logographic system was perfected until it became a phonetic system. About 3000 BCE Sumerian scribes supplemented their logographic system by introducing a phonetic or syllabic use of signs, making it an agglutanitive language: it is made up of elements which almost always consist of a single syllable. When Akkadian scribes took over this writing system, they inherited both logographic and phonetic signs. They would add new phonetic values based on Akkadian, as well as determinatives and semantic classifiers. These have a specialized logographic value: the determinative is a logogram preceding or following a word and identifying the class to which it belongs. It is not to be pronounced when reading the text aloud. Phonetic complements are added to a logogram to specify its reading. Phonetic (syllabic) values of a sign can be represented in alphabetic script. Due in part to the nature of the Summerian language, a given syllable in Akkadian may be represented by one of several signs. See J. T. Barrera, The Jewish and the Chrtistian Bible, Brill, Eerdmans (1998), p. 81. A different perspective on the origin and development of man from an economic and political perspective, see F. Fukuyama, The End of History and the Last Man, (1992). Fukuyama views Western Civilization as the final development in the evolution of mankind’s political aspirations. In man’s “struggle for recognition” he has at last reached a juncture called “liberal democracy,” which includes “liberal politics” and “liberal economics.” Although there would be room for nationalism in such a concept, harsh autocracies and dictatorships could not be tolerated. The break-up of the USSR, and more recently, “the Arab Spring” in Egypt, Libya, Syria, and Tunisia, are good examples of a natural movement towards some form of “liberal democracy.” Such a “universal and homogenous state,” Fukuyama views as “the end of history.” The “first men” would be engaged in bloody warfare on the battle field, whereas the “last men” would assert themselves in new and unforeseen ways in the economic and political arena. The fact that man’s aspirations to self-worth and recognition would to a large degree be attained, he has thus arrived as “the last man.”
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There is no doubt that Adam wasn't the first man. How do believers get around that small fact?
by jam inusing bible in determing the date of the creation of adam .
anyone in their right mind believe this to be true in today age.. don,t you think this nullify the whole bible?
the very first book.
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Vidqun
Perhaps Adam was the first man that could read and write? If that's the case he would stand out as "the first man." Language (and writing) as we know it, is not that old.
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Lot's of talk on the July Watchtower?
by noonehome inso i've heard lots of talk from within about the 'new light' in this watchtower...i'm yet to look at it in any detail.
i'm kind of surprised actually...i first heard about it here before it was even available but close to the time it did come out people started bringing it up - even our co.. some say things like "have you heard about this?
" or "big changes," or "allot of things they said we believed, i didn't realize,"(lots of that) or "brain-overload" or " too much information, but i've never felt more pumped up" or "it's soo exciting to see jehovah's spirit lead his organization..." or "it requires time to sink in, but it's a good feeling!
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And according to WT Theology, John the Baptist is not of the anointed and will not go to heaven. So does that mean Russel was not of the anointed? It gets murkier and murkier. Or is it a case of giving themselves enough rope.... to hang themselves.
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Youtube Video of Watchtower Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses who were Homosexuals
by Scott77 inmost troubling are the sexual sins of the gb.
two of their number, ewart chitty and leo greenlees were both found to be homosexuals.
chitty was sent back to his native britain in 1979 and not disfellowshipped.
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Vidqun
I agree with Balaamass, this is about sexual predators and child molesting. Homosexuality is a secondary issue.
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My Experience at the Safeguard Your Conscience Special Assembly Day
by Vienna Angelika inso i have some interesting news about the special assembly day.
normally at the assembly, my parents pay close attention and take turns taking notes.
then after the program, they enjoy socializing for some time.
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Vidqun
My mother used to be an uber-dub, and she had a similar experience. Most of the talks dealt with conscience. An interested man and his family attended. Halfway through the program, they walked out, my mother hearing the man muttering: Let's go. There's no worship of God here.... My mother agreed with the man whole-heartedly. A lot was said of things that had nothing to do with the worship or praise of God. She also thought it was a massive waste of time. I am so glad that I don't have to endure such crap anymore.
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Where is aunt Connie?
by wannaexit inwith all this serious talk about aawa, i'm missing the good laughs i got from aunt connie.
where did she go?.
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Aunt Connie is having tea with Mrs. Buckett (only the elite of BBC viewers will understand).
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The United Nations will attack Christendom
by Doug Mason inthis is a serious question and i hope to receive intelligent explanations.. .
the wts says that the great tribulation lies in the future.
they write that it will start when the united nations attacks christendom.. .
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Vidqun
Yo Bobcat, great minds think alike. I also like the paragraph headings of the Holman Christian Standard Bible in Matt. 24 and Rev. This is also how I understand it, especially in Matthew. Signs of the end of the age > Persecutions predicted > The great tribulation > The coming of the sons of man, etc.
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The United Nations will attack Christendom
by Doug Mason inthis is a serious question and i hope to receive intelligent explanations.. .
the wts says that the great tribulation lies in the future.
they write that it will start when the united nations attacks christendom.. .
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Vidqun
Why on earth would the political system turn on religion and ignore JWs? As a cult they would be first to go. Anyway, whatever you believe to be the interpretation of Babylon the Great, they have the sequence all wrong. First of all, if Christendom is all bad, what are they doing in a holy place (Matt. 24:15)? Meaning of "holy" = consecrated of of God, set apart. Secondly, according to Revelation 16, Babylon will be remembered last, during plague seven, the last plague. At the at the end of the tribulation, Babylon will be destroyed, not at the beginning. My five cents worth.
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I have a problem with their explanation of the sequence of events leading up to Armageddon. Rev. 16 discusses the last seven plagues visited upon mankind. The destruction of Babylon the Great occurs during the seventh plague, right at the end of the tribulation. They view it as the beginning of the great tribulation.