Posts by Vidqun

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This was my 'Sign'

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

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in my previous post i mentioned that i'm staying in the org because i think i got a sign from god...some of you asked a lot of questions about my sign and even shared the society's view on asking for signs which i didn't know.. i didn't disclose exactly what the sign was.. some of you asked me what it was and even stated that i know that you all would pick apart and prove that my sign was just a frivolous excuse to hold on to the org.. maybe you were right.. so i've decided to tell you all exactly what it was---no embellishments or exaggerations.

i would love to hear your opinions since i'm still in a terrible mess.sometimes i'm 100% this is not the truth then other times i'm 60%....i feel if god was giving me a sign i'd be 100% this is the truth you know?.

so i woke up that morning and organized to go meeting.

Vidqun

MsGG20, here's a thought. Remember, the congregation is your support group. If you are suddenly cut off from your support group, it will be as though you are in a life raft on the ocean. You will be lifted by evey swell, and be carried along by each wave. In the past many have urged that you should not be in a hurry. What's the rush? To make things more complicated, you might be emotionally involved with someone in the congregation. To be in love is one of the greatest feelings ever, but beware. You can become unevenly yoked, which you might regret forever.

As you were encouraged in previous threads, if you have the opportunity, do carry on with your (secular) studies. It is your God-given obligation. 1 Tim. 5:8 says: "Certainly if anyone does not provide for those who are his [or her] own, he has disowned the fath and is worse than a person without faith." This is your first obligation. While you are studying you will be broadening your horizons and making new friends. During holidays you can even pioneer, if you feel like it - my five cents worth.

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Whoa - stop the world - I just got the joke!

by Qcmbr in

finally - i get it.

oh my gosh.. .

why did the chicken cross the road?.

Vidqun

Chicken

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Whoa - stop the world - I just got the joke!

by Qcmbr in

finally - i get it.

oh my gosh.. .

why did the chicken cross the road?.

Vidqun

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JW-media.org appears to be dow. Can anyone else get in???

by not bitter in

i was in there earlier today to read up on their child abuse policy but it doesn't seem to be working now.

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i need to print their policy off as i'm thinking of speaking to my parents about it.

Vidqun

Perhaps hackers have taken it down?

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It took me a long time to write this...i'm staying.

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

it took me a long time to write this....i'm being brutally honest...i am still a reg pioneer...three sundays ago,i was praying and asking god for a sign or something because i was so confused...i told him exactly what i needed to see for me to believe.i was feeling terrible--crying and feeling sick because i was so confused.ten minutes after, i walked into the kingdom hall and to my surprise--my prayer was answered!

i soooo wasn't expecting it, even though i prayed.

so this is where almighty god wants me to be,ii've reasoned.

Vidqun

Well, as long as she watches her back. The Society has a secret list of 23 000 pedophiles (and counting) on their books according to Silent Lambs. With such a statistic at the back of your mind: How on earth would you be able to participate in the preaching work and sleep well at night?

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Facebook Comments From JWs About Kendrick Case

by cofty in

i can't believe do catholic priest get hit with payouts like this.

definitely feel terrible what happened to her but to hold the society responsible for a person not living by bible standards is crazy.

what a pack of lies about secrecy and cover ups.

Vidqun

It is obvious that none of the respondents have ever been molested? Perhaps they have been molested and are willing to take one for the team? I am ashamed to say that I was once associated with such fanatics that have no clue of right or wrong. And who is it that brought dishonor on Jehovah's name, the victim?

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It took me a long time to write this...i'm staying.

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

it took me a long time to write this....i'm being brutally honest...i am still a reg pioneer...three sundays ago,i was praying and asking god for a sign or something because i was so confused...i told him exactly what i needed to see for me to believe.i was feeling terrible--crying and feeling sick because i was so confused.ten minutes after, i walked into the kingdom hall and to my surprise--my prayer was answered!

i soooo wasn't expecting it, even though i prayed.

so this is where almighty god wants me to be,ii've reasoned.

Vidqun

Each must work out his or her own salvation (Phil. 2:12). And in the end each must render an account to God (Rom. 14:12). As long as you don't stop thinking. Carry on developing your brain. Everything of the best.

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JWs and Neutrality

by Vidqun in

jws have always had a problem with neutrality:.

1) during ww i they encouraged via the magazines to buy war bonds, i.e., liberty bonds, as it was then known, thus actively supporting the war effort (search, under "war bonds").. 2) during ww ii, the australian branch also invested heavily in war bonds in order for the ban to be lifted.

after the war, they had to repent, before jehovah could bless their efforts again.. 3) more recently the wts has invested in companies with defense contracts.. 4) membership of the un as ngo (1992-2001).

Vidqun

Thanks Blondie for your input. As you might have noticed, it is something close to my heart because of being directly involved with the neutrality issue in the past.

Criticalwitness, I agree. I have read somewhere that Jehovah allowed Rutherford and associates to be imprisoned because of the war bonds saga and because they did not encourage strict neutrality during the war. As you say, next time round things might be different. I do believe, what goes around comes around. The wheel is indeed turning.

Disillusioned, interesting theory, encouraging neutrality to keep the R&F focused on cult activities.

Carla, I agree. Few people understand the real meaning of the word, especially JWs. I know for a fact the Swiss nation, which is referred to as being neutral, is everything but neutral. Each of their citizens is armed and undergoes compulsory military training.

QueenWitch, yes being truly neutral does reflect ignorance or stupidity. Nobody can be truly neutral in a multi-cultural society. Even the Witnesses are not shy to don traditional dress, and they are proud of their heritage, no doubt.

Apostatethunder, good point. Being neutral in the midst of injustice (e.g. what's happening in Syria) is equivalent to condoning it. That puts "neutrality" in a new light for me.

InquiryMan, that rings a bell. I think it was the yearbook dealing with JWs in Australia and the islands.

Conclusion: I think all will agree, nobody can be truly neutral and retain a good conscience, especially where there is injustice. However, if you propagate it as an organization, you should put your money where your mouth is, and not keep double standards.

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JWs and Neutrality

by Vidqun in

jws have always had a problem with neutrality:.

1) during ww i they encouraged via the magazines to buy war bonds, i.e., liberty bonds, as it was then known, thus actively supporting the war effort (search, under "war bonds").. 2) during ww ii, the australian branch also invested heavily in war bonds in order for the ban to be lifted.

after the war, they had to repent, before jehovah could bless their efforts again.. 3) more recently the wts has invested in companies with defense contracts.. 4) membership of the un as ngo (1992-2001).

Vidqun

No takers. Let me bump the thread.

In Chapter 14 "They Are No Part of the World" of the Proclaimers-book they compare JWs with 1st century Christians. Their lapses during the First World Wars they ascribe to their understanding of Rom. 13:1, that the authorities were "ordained by God". That's why they encouraged their fellow Bible Students to buy war bonds and prey for an Allied victory.

Then the book goes on to say: "But then, at the end of World War I, another situation arose that called on religious groups to show where their loyalties were." They then discuss the formation of the League, the UN, the UN charter and their endorsement by religious groups. They conclude: "To observers of these developments, it was plain who wanted to be "a friend of the world" and who was endeavouring to be "no part of the world," as Jesus said would be true of his disciples.-Jas. 4:4; John 17:14."

Now fast-forward to 1992, and they join the UN as NGO. Interestingly, this is also the year that the Proclaimers-book was published and Fred W. Franz died. For some reason, their neutrality wheels came off then. What would have caused them to affect such a change from established JW doctrine? It boggles the mind.

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JWs and Neutrality

by Vidqun in

jws have always had a problem with neutrality:.

1) during ww i they encouraged via the magazines to buy war bonds, i.e., liberty bonds, as it was then known, thus actively supporting the war effort (search, under "war bonds").. 2) during ww ii, the australian branch also invested heavily in war bonds in order for the ban to be lifted.

after the war, they had to repent, before jehovah could bless their efforts again.. 3) more recently the wts has invested in companies with defense contracts.. 4) membership of the un as ngo (1992-2001).

Vidqun

JWs have always had a problem with neutrality:

1) During WW I they encouraged via the magazines to buy War Bonds, i.e., Liberty Bonds, as it was then known, thus actively supporting the war effort (Search, under "War Bonds").

2) During WW II, the Australian Branch also invested heavily in War Bonds in order for the ban to be lifted. After the war, they had to repent, before Jehovah could bless their efforts again.

3) More recently the WTS has invested in companies with Defense contracts.

4) Membership of the UN as NGO (1992-2001). Brothers forming NGOs in different countries to assist those in wartorn lands, e.g., Aid Afrique.

I went through the information on "neutrality" in the Proclaimers-book. They are definitely not practicing what they are preaching. This is "theocratic warfare" at its best. If they continue on this path, things will unravel fast. Not even the most thick of the R&F will swallow all that. I am sure some of you will have some input on the subject to assist us newbies in our quest for freedom.