ran into this lone sister in fs.
today stopped her as she was hiding her wt mag.. i went straight into child molestion and the catholics/ then switched it on the wt.
she tried to tell me all jw are told to go to the police.
I find they look so dejected when out at the doors. They don't look happy or enthusiastic.
I asked the last pair what will happen to all those who died 60 years ago believing things that they would be disfellowshipped for if they were alive today. I did not get an answer.
If I wait long enough perhaps they will believe the same as me!
about two years ago i was challenged by a householder to do the research on the subject.
of course thinking it was all bunk i decided to take a look off the reservation.
much to my surprise a lot of started to make sense and i started to understand the connections between the old and new testament .
Interesting, Steel.
I don't see much evidence for the trinity. In new testament visions God is seen with Jesus sitting or standing at his right hand side. No third person is seen.
i am curious as to what current religion is similar in beliefs and organization to jw's.
i've only come as far as christadelphians.
are there any others you know of?.
The organisation of Christadelphians is not the same as JW's. Each group is autonomous and there is no ruling body.
Some celebrate Christmas and some don't.
Christadelphians believe that no-one goes to heaven at death.
and how long will it last?
and who will come after that, yahweh, as the old testament says or jesus, as the new testament says?
the scriptures say he'll come to the mount of olives, but surely that's a spiritual mount of olives.
I agree with cold steel on this point.
When there is an earthquake in Israel which splits mount Olivet in two, that will be when Jesus returns to the earth.
and how long will it last?
and who will come after that, yahweh, as the old testament says or jesus, as the new testament says?
the scriptures say he'll come to the mount of olives, but surely that's a spiritual mount of olives.
I like The Searcher's comment
"The judgement starts first with the house of God."
at a recent meeting there was a watchtower article about life in paradise.
they were saying that even when witnesses finally get there they will still be under the strict instructions from the elders and gb.
they may be given jobs that they will find unpleasant, also the preaching work will be ongoing because of all the resurrected people who need to learn about why they are given another chance.
Thanks LifesNotOver and blondie for your time and detailed explanation. I can understand why you would not want go through all that with householders.
There are clearly a lot of areas which are avoided in discussions at the door unless the householder understands the doctrine and presses for more details.
at a recent meeting there was a watchtower article about life in paradise.
they were saying that even when witnesses finally get there they will still be under the strict instructions from the elders and gb.
they may be given jobs that they will find unpleasant, also the preaching work will be ongoing because of all the resurrected people who need to learn about why they are given another chance.
Thanks for the clarification, LifesNotOver.
I have never been a JW so I only know what I hear when they come to the door.
So, who do they say is going to be resurrected? Just dead JW's who have not gone to heaven?
I'm sure I have been told that children and those who have never heard of JW's will be resurrected.
if so wouldn't it be funny to write a letter to your councilman, mayor,congressman, senator and.
other government officials why jw's don't vote.
most will say because i'am told.
How about:
Romans 13v1 says "The powers that be are ordained by God"
John 19 v 10,11
1 Peter 2 v 13,14
and there are more in a similar vein.
when i found out what was in store for those with the heavenly hope, no thank you.
i love you jehovah.
but i also love the fruits here on earth.
Thanks, Blondie. That thinking sounds like it has been strongly influenced by Greek mythology.
I also appreciate Atomant's comment
when i found out what was in store for those with the heavenly hope, no thank you.
i love you jehovah.
but i also love the fruits here on earth.
I read Blondie's comment above, but don't know how to copy it down here.
If angels can be faithful then go bad, and there is war in heaven, is heaven any better than here and now?
Who would want to go there?
