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Other religions are abusive too.,

by wednesday in

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i know jw's are abusive psychologicaly to their members, however so are other churches.

case in point, i knew a woman who would not marry b/c the pope said not to use birth control.

she did not want children, and she could not find it within herself to go against the pope.

wednesday

I guess i do need an organized expression of my faith. I know others speak about christain freedom-but generally that translates into not attending a church, but leading a spiritual life. It has been drilled into my head that christ had an organized religion.

a friend said, that becoming an adult and learing it think for yourself-many people stop going to church. He sort of equated with becoming an adult .. But why? The early christains had congreagtions-why shouldn't we attend somewhere?

Im really mad b/c of the unloving attitude i see in jw's. But i see that among a lot of people. I think one of the problems is being raised as a jw-i was taught to trust my bro and sis and we lead a shelted life. the world is a mixed bag some would hurt u if given the chance, whether u a jw or not.And when i got hurt by the very people that i trusted-what a surpise! I forgot they were human. I never really learned to function as an adult .

My husband , who at first was tolerant of this site-has become weary of it. He is tired of me reading it. he is content to stay as he is-even though he did says he did not agree with everything jw taught.he will not tolerate a spirited discussion, but says i am arguing

I was never a very good jw anyhow. . I was always shooting off my mouth, not submissive, .. I just haven't clearly crossed the line so they could kick me out. But after a read another thread tonight, someone was DA without any notice. they don't seem too interested in us at the monemt. We are no threat to them. Especially me as a woman. I just hate living in a divided household. I wish my hubby and i could get on the same page. he won't allow me to celebrate squat. so i am forced to abide by jw frles on that matter whether i like it or not. I see why it is important to agree on religion.

I can't just walk into another church. I could be seen-and my husband would have a fit.

Edited by - wednesday on 22 November 2002 2:6:47

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Other religions are abusive too.,

by wednesday in

jw
friends

i know jw's are abusive psychologicaly to their members, however so are other churches.

case in point, i knew a woman who would not marry b/c the pope said not to use birth control.

she did not want children, and she could not find it within herself to go against the pope.

wednesday

I know Jw's are abusive psychologicaly to their members, however so are other churches. Case in point, I knew a woman who would not marry b/c the Pope said not to use birth control. She did not want children, and she could not find it within herself to go against the pope. She was as depressed and unhappy as any jw i have ever seen. Or neighbors are church of christ, they are very strict, and i suspect they probably to engage in informal shunnig. the baptist religin is very prominent in Texas, and they will condemn u to burn in hell(die at armageddon???) if u do not agree with them. Consider the TV evangelist scandal of the 80-90. There leaders are corrupt. the waco whachos. the people who thought they were going to go to heavn in a space shift,the people who stand on street corner with signs saying the world is going to end. I am finding that the people i talk to (not jw) often feel just as injured by their religion. As far as shunning-i know our church of christ neighbors shunned us. And i don't find "worldly people" as good of friends as some say they are. Most will stab u in the back if given a chance. Really true friends are hard to find- anywhere.

this is my husbands argument, and also, my docs. he says he has seen many sad cases of religion abuse. So he is not too sorry for me.now, not having ever been to any other religion-i really cna't disagree with them. I know for sure the catholic church has a strong influence on many people. And they too tend to gravitate toward the poor and ignorant-and keep them that way.

I have known hypocrital judemental peopel or many religions. JW do not have a patent on this. tell me again , why Jw are so much worse then the fire breathing baptists, or the catholics who would have u confess all your sins to them. I really want to know. I am at a crossroads here and before i leave jw completely, i need something more than they are abusive. b/c the catholic religion really has had a patent on that .Is there nay place u can go u wont' be abused?

I guess no one said "losing your religion" would be esay.

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Should I continue to support Bill Bowen?

by Gamaliel in

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to whom it may concern, .

i have contributed financially to the cause of silentlambs.org and have, to a smaller extent, even promoted the website.

it is difficult enough to fathom the depth of hurt heaped on humankind, but impossible for me to understand how such suffering can be compounded with injustice, as i read experiences on silentlambs.org.

wednesday

I will continue to support Silent Lambs. I will do it b/c of all the survivors(myself included). I have some feelings about this war of words between Bill and Ray-but it will not stop me from supporting SilentLambs .

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JWs behavior on 9-11

by els in

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i keep reading references to jws drawing the blinds, etc during the attacks on 9-11. does anyone have concrete accounts of such behavior?

els

wednesday

Actually, the only reference . at the KH made about it was "this is the last days, as we have recently seen". After the meeting, a few people were talking about if any JW were in there and if they survived. Perhaps they were all in shock, like a lot of people. Sure seemed cold.I kept trying to talk to others about it, and i heard stuff like"we must stay neutral..." Sort of like those pic the tallyman had on his site-showing happy people walking away from destruction.I actually noted an almost indifference, except for if any JW were involved.then again, perhaps it was shock-we all felt overwhelmed.

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What New Light Are You Talking About?

by Robdar in

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andyman stated in another thread:this got me thinking about the change in the 1914 generation.

i remember how this was a very important point when i was studying back in the late 80's.

it was explained to me over and over that this system would defenitly end before the generation of 1914 passed away.

wednesday

ok i read the article-but i fail to find where they say that the brothes all previously misundrstood the generation thing. aCtualy, i readthe whole thing and they do not even address the previous idea of a generation being 70-80-years. If they do say this in the publications pls someone pint it out for me so i cna show my husband who does not believe any of this.

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ScARY Man.. Michael Jackson

by Country Girl in

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/021114/161/2oheh.html

wednesday

My Gawd, what has he done to his nose? And it looks like scabs or maybe hair under his nose. I knew he's had lots of plastic surgery, but to look like this? he has to be wearing a wig.

scary ugh

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? re door to door JWs

by truthsetsfree in

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i am not a witness or ex-witness but rather a 35 year old mom engaging in a dialogue with witnesses who are coming to my door.

(i may not change their minds but i'd like to plant seeds of doubt!

) i am trying to figure out what is behind a strategy (?

wednesday

Truth,

this is just my personal opinion, but unless u are very well versed with the society's histroy-u might want to think before u go for that. They are aware of the things being said on the internt-and the first thing they will probably do is ask u where u got your info. if u say , "i read COC" or "got it off the internet" they will lauch into "these are apostate's" and it really hard to argue with their insane logic. if u know your scriptures well, then discuss doctrines. But be prepared-they'll twist the scriptures to their viewpoint and could confuse us. They might, if u tell them"I've read all i want to know about u on the internet" back off and consider u one that "satan got to". If your goal is make them question their faith-good luck-i was a drone for years and knew nojthing about apostates and so would have only walked away form u. But if u had used scriptures i would have worked really hard to help u se the light.

So consider what your goal is-to make them question their faith-really hard to do-or just get rid of them?They run form anyone that speaks apostate.

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HOW LONG WERE YOU A JW?

by hamptonite21 in

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93 did the dunk!

99 df'd

wednesday

birth till 96, become mostly inactive, attending occ meeting, No service since late 80's.47 now

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Most left it - Right Date / Wrong Event

by garybuss in

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http://www.adventist.org/history/

between 1831 and 1844, william miller--a baptist preacher and former army captain in the war of 1812--launched the "great second advent awakening" which eventually spread throughout most of the christian world.

based on his study of the prophecy of daniel 8:14, miller calculated that jesus would return to earth sometime between 1843 and 1844. others within the movement calculated a specific date of october 22, 1844. when jesus did not appear, miller's followers experienced what became to be called "the great disappointment.

wednesday

yes, i am reading "the gentile times reconsidered" and it states that Jw, 7th day adventist, and assembly of God church are a break away form the second avendist i believe started by miller. I don't have my book in front of me -but jw share a common background., I looked at the site and tried to find out a few things. They do believe in the trinity. They believe when christ comes back that all will go to heaven, and then when 1000 year reign starts the church will descend from heavn to earth and the earth will then become a paradise. They will not allow u to become a member if u are under censure form anojther church due to moral, character. I could not find an answer as to whether they disfellowship for morals, but one spot says that if one disagreed with church they were free to join another or works to that affect.

Edited by - wednesday on 14 November 2002 1:4:15

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Falling Away

by Blueblades in

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i understand that between 1970 and 1995, one-third of the jehovah's witnesses worldwide left the organization.

the figure is 55% for those in the u.s.a.these figures would seem to mean that there are a lot of dissatisfied jw's!

if you were to ask a jw's,why so many would want to leave if there is such a wonderful atmosphere of love among the witnesses, could they give you a good reason?

wednesday

I have been told the scripture "..love of greater number will cool off.." applies to jw-not world. also, tehy quote that scripture that says "they were not of our sort..". Also, they say jehovah is doing a sifitng work. We are bing tested. etc on and on.