A Cristian,
That our earth has never been completely covered with water
yeah i noticed that comment from you, but since some agnostic non cristian here also beleive that, i could not find why you and them are "fighting"
i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.
my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.
he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.
A Cristian,
That our earth has never been completely covered with water
yeah i noticed that comment from you, but since some agnostic non cristian here also beleive that, i could not find why you and them are "fighting"
we started to "bud" in our blouses at 9 or 10 years .
old only to find that anything that came in contact .
with those tender, blooming buds hurt so bad it .
right....With your attitude, I am sure all the ladies just flock to you...
Not really, just the ones with the right attitude. Only those girls who do not get offended easily, can think for thelmselves, dont mind asking or accepting a real solution AND distinguish a jerk from a real man. Besides "attitude" in cyberspace is different when you play reality, actually i can not see you smiling... and i never use a video camera in cyberspace.
i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.
my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.
he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.
Green,
Are you asking why I believe the transmitters of the flood account thought it was a global one? Or are you asking why I believe the Bible in general?
NOw i would say both, but my initial question was sticking to the topic only.
i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.
my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.
he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.
I went back on this thread to find what A cristian is trying to prove but I am tired and could not find it.
I did find interesting the following comment, assuming it is true.
Tribes and cities that were destroyed in the flood reappear uninterrupted a few pages later"?
As A Cristian suggest It also seem like besides Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel there were some more people living around, who were they? Nod... (male?, most likely) was one of them. Genesis does not even mention who "married" Cain, but i think it does menion all male children from Adam.
14 Behold, thou hast driven me this day away from the ground; and from thy face I shall be hidden; and I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will slay me." 15 Then the LORD said to him, "Not so! If any one slays Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold." And the LORD put a mark on Cain, lest any who came upon him should kill him
Genesis 4:16 - Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, east of Eden.
i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.
my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.
he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.
Green,
Yes, I believe
What exactly makes you "believe"?
i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.
my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.
he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.
I also do not have the time right now to respond to all the criticisms which
I understand that, also i appeared too late on this thread. I will email you.
for the benefit of the public, during the mean time, i feel free to ask
Does the Genesis account reveal that the preparation and the flood itself was global?
Does the Cristian message about the flood, as presented in the "scriptures" reveal an understanding of a global flood by the writers?.
we started to "bud" in our blouses at 9 or 10 years .
old only to find that anything that came in contact .
with those tender, blooming buds hurt so bad it .
Nothin' like a little self-aggrandizement, eh, One?
are you jealous? name were witheld to protect the victims, nobody is perfect and i try me wicked sense of humor sometimes, not pretending to hurt anyone, this has been an hilarious topic from the very beginin....
there are many thing i dont regret about jw
learning from jw about cristmas is one of them
the jw were very open about cristmas, going against the "system" require some strenght and that in itself attracted many to the jw org.
Through the years our local newspapers have printed the origins of Christmas.
for how long ago have they been doing it did you say?
recently "local" newspapers had no choice but to incidentally publish what has been known for years, through wt propaganda machinery.
"local" is local, world wide is
world wide delivery by by the wt at a low cost to your home
at a time when most people did not even read newspapers, much less playboy, still most people do not read newspapers or have internet..
i've just read an intersting article on the flood to do with dates and whether is was truly global or a regional flood.. http://www.commentarypress.com/essay-flood.html.
my father used to be an elder for many years and the flood was one of the things that made him walk away not just from the jw but also belief in the bible.
he was hung up on issues like the flood taking place about 3500 bc and how that fit in with the pyramids.. i don't know much about egyptian history or the ages of the big pyramids, but his reasoning was if the flood wiped out every human on earth except noah etc then at 3500 bc there were only 8 people on earth.
I missed the whole game
A cristian,
For some, like myself, that evidence came to them as a result of long personal studies of both science and the Scriptures which convinced them that the Bible is inspired by God.
You are "conviced" that the Bible is inspired by God, but you are not willing to share exactly how you arrived to such conclusions.. Proving that the bible is inspired may be the appropiate starting point.
Every child whom God adopts He adopts personally.
Can you explain the criteria "He" uses for adopting?
i have heard many creationists say: "just look at the universe!
there are so many things about it that have to be just right for it to be able to support life.
an interesting point, so i did a bit of basic math:.
If you put all the gears and doodads in a box and shook it up for a million years, it would never all into place as a working timepiece.
Not that i am an expert buy biology and mechanics are not the same. Such wt analogy(?) was good for silly jw, as we were.