how longo it took you to find out your mate was cheating you, kidding.
really how long it took you to find out the truth about the truth or at least to become really distrust about the whole thing, and why.. to start i just knew, by summer 1974, that big a was not comming on 1975. the oil embargo, nixon etc kept me worry for a while.
i even resigned a very lucrative and promising job to piooner.
How longo it took you to find out your mate was cheating you, kidding
Really How long it took you to find out the truth about the truth or at least to become really distrust about the whole thing, AND WHY.
To start i just knew, by summer 1974, that big A was not comming on 1975. The oil embargo, Nixon etc kept me worry for a while. I even resigned a very lucrative and promising job to piooner.
hello all.. i was hoping a few of you would do me a favour.
a local news editor has asked me a question.
he has asked why is this un/wts story important to the local community?.
"LOCAL COMMUNITY"?
1.jw/population ratio in your community
2.- multiply that by ? factor. (?= tipical ,number of friends co-workers, non-jw relatives etc) and you will get a % of people who will read the paper article completly ,just because is related to the jw, the writer should not mention only wt but include JW in the heading.
3.to increase audience (that's all they are looking for) include in the heading something political or fraud.
THE JW/WT AGENDA SIMILAR TO THE (TALIBAN) (catholic church)
Better yet someone here should write the articleS, no press release, and fax to them for review, it may work as long as you don't try to take credit. Avoid writting too many details.
as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.
and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .
after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk
wannahelp,
TWO already died days ago. one is Mr. Silva, i was told he used to be "branch overseer" in broklyn. He did a lot of recordings for the distric and international conventions. At least i remember he interviwed me when i applied to work at Bethel.
The same day at the same place a missionary named Abigail also died.
i was talking to jw's that i know about a book that i had read by ray franz.
they told me that he was disfellowshipped because he was trying to the control the religion and bend it to his will.. i have read crisis of conscience and the first half of in search of christian freedom, and can tell from my heart that this is not the case.
i see from his examples that he was truly trying to use scripture as his guide.. i am curious of other rumors that are/were circulating through the congregations about him, and on what "basis" they have been spread.
R. Franz? the nicest "annointed" i ever knew, most other so called annointed were 'strange' persons, F.Franz included.
Cinthia his wife, a lovely lady, beautifully smiling all the time.
well, a post on the good ol days got me thinking about the vehicles people drive and why.
in the jws, a vehicle had to be appropriate for service, four doors, holding at least five.
i remember back in 1978 i bought an mgb and the brothers had a fit (hehe), i was selfish, etc.,.
E,
You are driving everybody crazy with the topic, lots of pix etc
someone very nice (alan f) passed this on to me late friday and i did not have the opportunity to pass it on to you.. if any of you guys have been following my un thread (which is now very tough to find thanks to the changes in the board) you may have noticed the 1994 un directory.
it provided three names on page 261 that were linked with the wts's name.
one person was w. l. barry (at the time he was the vice president).
listen to this echo here, no one is totally wrong.
MA said:
I still think that the circumstantial evidence points to "a plan". Who had the original idea and when, or when did the GB sign on, I don't know. BUT, at some point this became GB sanctioned strategy to sacrifice religious principle for marketing purposes
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MadApostate,
I agree with you 99%, it was a plan.
It all started when Fred Franz was losing power due to age. All his predictions did not come true and they became more realistic. Economic and politics was a good game to play then.
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Alan F said to MA:
This is a good theory if you assume that WTS leaders have any brains, but they don't. At least, not so's I can see. Rather, they react to events.
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and now i say:
a plan can be conceived colletive, (monolithic or framgmented one way or another), or individually. The "brain" does not have to be very efficient, in fact the plan can fail, as it happens in many cases, due to lack of "brains".
someone very nice (alan f) passed this on to me late friday and i did not have the opportunity to pass it on to you.. if any of you guys have been following my un thread (which is now very tough to find thanks to the changes in the board) you may have noticed the 1994 un directory.
it provided three names on page 261 that were linked with the wts's name.
one person was w. l. barry (at the time he was the vice president).
MadApostate,
I agree with you 99%, it was a plan.
It all started when Fred Franz was losing power due to age. All his predictions did not come true and they became more realistic. Economic and politics was a good game to play then.
in 1990 the german branch sought recognition as a public corporation.
the austrian branch did a similar thing.
in 1991 lloyd barry signed for associating as an ngo with un's pr-department.
Fred Franz was about to die or was dead, he was the WT architect...
and you know the rest of the story.
1. by getting media attention one way or another or.
2. paying to advertise, advertise advertise copies of the un and other letters.
3. register you non-profit org (randy) with ngp-dip to:.
1. By getting media attention one way or another or
2. Paying to advertise, advertise advertise copies of the UN and other letters
3. Register you non-profit org (Randy) with NGP-DIP to:
a.- promote or defend HUMAN RIGHTS
a.- expose human rights violations by WT
shuch as shunning. A global issue.
Were you aware when you joined that you could not get out?
at least not without paying the price.
3. How dificult is to send a letter (friendly virus)to each secretary or KH? Just insert copies of UN letters etc without saying anything else.
Old timers elders and "mature" jw will become aware of the facts, they should be the target, they (we) rembember very well the UN issue.
please answer me in private:.
i do need to taoe a meeting secretly.
wich kind of equipment do you suggest??.
It can be done easily and "legally"
