Posts by Balaamsass

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The Watchtower Society Sends Known Sexual Predators To People's Homes - How Can We Alert The Public?

by DT in

i find it incredible that the public doesn't know this.

the watchtower society is showing callous disregard for the rights and safety of the public.. i really think we need to make an effort to get the word out.

the watchtower society and child abuse are in the news now, especially with the candace conti case and the recent actions of anonymous.. do you think we can get a newspaper interested in covering this story?

Balaamsass

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Why the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society BAN against Peace Officers serving as "Elders " for Jehovah's Witnesses ?

by Balaamsass in

in the early 80s the watchtower society began to forbid any police officer from serving as a ministerial servant, elder or even viewed as "exemplary".

at the time i was told it was because of firearms, possible bloodguilt, and being men of violence- "smiters".. as a young person it just didn't make sense to me.

i knew and liked a few peace officers who served as elders.

Balaamsass

Actually slimboy, I can't say. He was nice to me. Had no fashion sense, and his room decorating was dreadful. Wanting to study the bible in the steamroom did creep me out.....however.

In any organization, managablity is important. If turning criminals over to the authorities becomes a "situational ethics" thing, Cops are not "manageable".

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Protesters at conventions / assemblies...

by garyneal in

jw
friends

first off, i can happily say that this year i did not attend a single day at this years district convention.. on saturday during the convention, my wife asked me to drop her off after lunch and later pick her up when the convention was over.

while i was dropping her off, i noticed a single individual holding picket signs protesting the convention.

it said things like, "was the ransom sacrifice worth it?

Balaamsass

And empty bread truck or pannel van parked at the entrance with a simple message and web-site could be VERY effective with studies and young people. So could a voice mail #.

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WT Society Feels they are Above the Laws of the Land - Even in their own....

by flipper in

jw
friends

...... words.

knowing that the candace conti child abuse case was probably coming down the turnpike as was the 5 out of court child abuse settlements the wt society settled in san diego, california - this past april as most of you know the wt society sent a secret letter instructing all elders to essentially keep their " pie-holes " shut ( mouths for those not hip to modern lingo ) and essentially instructed them to not divulge anything to any authorities investigating crimes or other information concerning wt organization operations.. someone posted a thread on this in april, however - with all the news coming out about wt child abuse coverups, the anonymous organization investigating the wt society , i felt it important to reveal some snippets of what the wt society instructed their elders regarding legal issues.

in one section it states, " when someone seeks confidential information : you should never reveal confidential information to anyone unless theocratic procedure requires it or the branch office has instructed you to do so.

Balaamsass

Blindnomore:

What happened to you is terrible!!!

If I can be of any help PM me.

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Watchtower's April 9 BOE Confidentiality Letter - Child Abuse - Did Jane Doe lawsuit play a major part?

by SweetBabyCheezits in

i'd bet my left.... pinky toe that the wt's monster 4/9 confidentiality letter was put out as a direct result of the jane doe/candace vs wt case as they were preparing to go to trial.

there had already been a year of legal proceedings - surely the wt knew the shit was about to hit the fan.. thanks goes to atlantis for posting the boe letters originally as pdfs.

the person that a restraining order is a personal legal matter that does not involve the congregation.. thereafter, the elders should call the legal department immediately for direction..

Balaamsass

Running like Roaches from a flashlight!

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Why the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society BAN against Peace Officers serving as "Elders " for Jehovah's Witnesses ?

by Balaamsass in

in the early 80s the watchtower society began to forbid any police officer from serving as a ministerial servant, elder or even viewed as "exemplary".

at the time i was told it was because of firearms, possible bloodguilt, and being men of violence- "smiters".. as a young person it just didn't make sense to me.

i knew and liked a few peace officers who served as elders.

Balaamsass

In the early 80s the Watchtower Society began to forbid any Police Officer from serving as a Ministerial Servant, Elder or even viewed as "Exemplary". WHY??

At the time I was told it was because of firearms, possible bloodguilt, and being men of Violence- "Smiters".

As a young person it just didn't make sense to me. I knew and liked a few Peace Officers who served as Elders. Great guys. Seemed like John Wayne to me. They didn't like criminals...had a sixth sense for them..and they hated child abuse. It got "Handled" ..untill they got "taken out of the loop" in the 80s.

The gun thing, well didn't Abraham go to War to rescue Lot? Didn't Jesus have the apostles do a weapon check after passover? Didn't he sent out the 70-armed?

Interesting thing..the big change in attitude in Bethel came after Knorr died, and when "steam room Freddy" Franz, Greenlees, and Chitty were on the governing Body. In the 70s the gay community, (and NAMBLA ) were not fond of COPS. Does anyone remember the "Stonewall riots? They were a series of spontaneous, violent demonstrations against a police raid that took place in the early morning hours of June 28, 1969, at the Stonewall Inn, in the Greenwich Village neighborhood of New York City." That was recent history in NYC in the late 70s and early 80s.

But more importantly MANDITORY REPORTING by SWORN POLICE OFFICERS began to instituted by Western Governments. PERHAPS THIS WAS A KEY REASON. Any Elder would have a legal duty to REPORT or ARREST a congregation RAPIST, CHILD MOLESTER, or WIFE BEATER not just have a confidential discussion or make a call to Watchtower legal.

75% of Elders in rural areas keep guns to this day. Have you heard of any issue being made of this? JUST COPS............hummmmmmm

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jehovah's witnesses can serve as police??

by candidlynuts in

i know this is from 2003 but i havent been here that long.

anyone recall this or comment?

secret order banishes religious minorities from police.

Balaamsass

Hummm.....can't be a cop...but a child molester is OK !!!!!!

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Yet another child a victim of sexual abuse in my JW family

by Lady Lee in

my father sexually abused me.

there were other children in her home over the years.

if you were sexually abused by someone never leave a child alone with them or in the home where they are.

Balaamsass

Thank you for sharing. My heart goes out to all abuse victims.

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Punk got shunned HURRAH!!!!

by punkofnice in

so i was da'd last september as a 'mentally diseased apostate'(tm) that the 'jehu elders'(tm) should 'slaughter'(tm) if the law of the land allows it.. i now get shunned in the street and i think it's so childish of the dubs to do so.

one family that shunned me was a family i bent over backwards to help them when they had to move house.

their loss...i won't help them again!.

Balaamsass

CONGRATS!!!!

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Disfellowshipped for Being Raped!

by UnDisfellowshipped in

march 8th 1974 issue, pages 13-16:.

"scream!

scream!

Balaamsass

The crushed, You are so correct! "In my opinion they have made themselves sharers in the rapists acts by being such ignorant bastards! "