I love how it says that if the disruptor physically attacks a member of the congregation, that member may use force to defend himslef. So, in other words: If you're getting your ass kicked, don't expect any help. Everyone else will just standby and watch.
It's ok to call the police to handle someone disrupting a meeting, but don't you dare call them if a brother is molesting the children in the congregation.
trying to learn to post pictures on here.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/forum/tech-support/205431/1/how-to-post-a-photo-here.
and i've done all this and it doesn't work.
Rush is the greatest band of all time. I've always wanted to meet the guys in the band. I started playing music because of the song "Spirit of Radio".
My dad gave me grief for having Rush albums. He stated that the band's name advocated narcotics use. Like a typical Witness, he found joy finding fault in anything not from the WTB&TS, even if it was a stretch of the imagination (i.e. bullshit).
http://blogs.sfweekly.com/exhibitionist/2012/02/5_hilarious_social_media_image.php.
this is actually not a former witness or anything, this is a cracked style article.
i think it's pretty funny, i think it's evidence that the wt is not going to be around forever.
A truly great article. It is priceless!
i'm scanning through some of the results from the 2012 jw survey as they're coming in.. the most populous of the six voting categories with 76 voters so far is my own category, for those who are inactive, or "faded/fading" (not disfellowshipped or da'd, but no longer reporting time on the ministry).. one statistic already leaping out at me surrounds the question "do you experience 'pre-emptive shunning' from active witnesses, who view you as 'bad association'?
" of the 74 who voted on this so far, 76% have answered "yes" to this question.. it's early days, and obviously i will have a clearer picture of the extent of the problem once the survey closes at the end of the year.
however, the results already in suggest that pre-emptive shunning is widespread among inactive ones, despite this not being an "official" policy of the society.. i was interested in your opinions as to why this may be?
My family was victim to this.
We were in the midst of an unintentional slow fade. My work schedule was the main contributing factor to our low meeting attendance. Having to work 2 to 3 double shifts on the weekend to make ends meet killed our field service participation.
We attended a one-day special assembly, which I had to trade and work a double shift just to attend, and I noticed that those whom my family associated with seemed rather distant. The big giveaway was after the afternoon session. Traditionally we always got an invite to go out to dinner. This time we didn't. In fact, all of our friends in the congregation were going to the same restaurant. No one invited us.
What gets me is the fact that the Watch Tower Society thinks this shunning garbage works as a pre-emptive way to get members to change. On the contrary; that was the finally nail in the coffin for my wife, who was not a born-in. I started down the road of an intentional fade from that point forward.
http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/01/on-meaning-of-life.html.
on the meaning of life.
in july of 1931, author and philosopher will durant wrote to a number of notable figures and asked, essentially, "what is the meaning of life?
"The act of worship, as carried on by Christians, seems to me to be debasing rather than ennobling. It involves grovelling before a Being who, if He really exists, deserves to be denounced instead of respected. I see little evidence in this world of the so-called goodness of God. On the contrary, it seems to me that, on the strength of His daily acts, He must be set down a most cruel, stupid and villainous fellow.
I do not believe in immortality, and have no desire for it. The belief in it issues from the puerile egos of inferior men. In its Christian form it is little more than a device for getting revenge upon those who are having a better time on this earth." - H. L. Mencken
This guy is a rockstar!
this area bothered me even more than the ban on college.
i was born a feminist, popped out that way.
before the women's movement, i hated their attitude of hating women.
I agree with the statements that:
1) Jehovah's Witnesses tend to demean women. It is horrible and I hate it. I grew up watch my mother carry herself as a second class citizen and my father exploiting her for it.
2) Jehovah's Witnesses who are men tend to be emasculated. This is due to the belief system that it is unchristian to be strong. It is one of the reasons why I became frustrated. No one would "man up" and if you did you were put down for being a trouble maker.
british dubs are invited to attend a special convention next summer in dublin , irish republic.
o k, this kind of trip has been done many times before.
however i have never seen such a crude and rigid set of rules that would apply to their own people going on a trip, at their own expense of course.
If you are too young, too poor, too fat, disabled, or just deemed "not examplary" enough to attend I will now reveal the hilights of this convention's program:
1) The end is so close.
2) You're not doing enough for the organization.
3) Obey the Governing Body or die at Armageddon.
4) Reject knowledge through education and especially the internet.
Now, take your hard earned money and go enjoy your life. It's the only one you get. I don't care wha those Jesus comic books the WTB&TS tell you.
the other day (australia day bbq actually) i somehhow got to discussing jws with some of my wifes extended family.
one of them, quite well educated and academic mentioned she was given a wt (no awake to go with it) when they called.. she commented that as she read some of it, it struck her how it was going on about pedaphiles and homosexuals a lot and secondly how every thing they said was not backed up by any legitimate research nor data, just random % this or that to support the flimsy arguments.. her comment was that this was the most un-academic, poorly written journal she had ever read and without going any further, threw it in the trash!.
the sheeple migh lap up the recycled vomit in that rag, but the public aint fooled.. the family laughed heartily when i informed them of the jw belief that the wt and awake!
not to mention immoral.. .
the 100 wealthiest americans have as much as the bottom 50%?.
many of the bottom 50% own guns in america don't they?
In order for communism to work, all must be willing to work and all must be willing to be happy with whatever the government gives them. The moment one person refuses to work or takes steps to have more than what the government tells him what he needs, the whole system falls like the house of cards it is.
Communism had it's day. It failed. It failed because of Coca-Cola and Levi jeans.
The first steps to a communist society is to take away the right of the individual to own property. I can afford to give my a children a home where they each have their own bedroom. Do I need a home that big. No. Under communism the government would have my family living in a 2-bedroom apartment.
In addition, I have a strong work ethic. I feel it is unjust for me to sweat and toil while my neighbor does everything half-assed, yet he is given the same quality of life as me. Further, I don't want to risk being put in jail because I bought an extra chocolate bar for my son's birthday through the black market because my family was over it's chocolate ration for the month.
ok, i guess i picked a poor title for this thread originally so i'm going try again with a different title!
(seven hours and no hits ...).
this fox news article made some interesting points.
Since the days of Charles Taze Russell, the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society has made the claim that Jehovah's Witnesses are the only pure religion. They have taken shots at many religions, especially the Catholic Church, including pointing out the various scandels that plague religions. In addition, they claim that their organization is a spiritual paradise.
So, to prevent making themselves appear to be hypocrits, they must hide the childe abuse within their ranks. The WTB&TS, especially under Rutherford, has gone to great lengths to make Jehovah's Witnesses stick out from the rest of the world's religions. Although the right thing would be to out the violators to the propert authorities, it would damage the image they are attempting to portray.
It would be a better Witness to assist the authorities in the prosecution of these vile people. However, that would still mean there is a problems with child abusers inside the organization.
