I noticed an abandoned cart, looked around, and finally saw the 2 JW tenders on the bench. I believe this was about 8:30 AM. It's a good thing that I'm still not in. The boredom would have driven me to take my own life, right on the corner like the monk that set himself a blaze to protest the Vietnam War. 
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Another day, another cart
by Anony Mous ini was standing at a red light and i noticed the little cart standing there.
they're barely noticeable and when i continued there was apparently someone on the other side of the street too.
the only problem, the location is a very busy intersection which has virtually no foot traffic and they're hard to see to begin with, as you can see from my vantage point i couldn't even read the cart and three people next to them on this side and two of them on the other side.. .
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As an Ex JW now, how would you react if you met your Bible study conductor?
by EverApostate ini was a jw for 11 years , came to know ttatt and wrote my disassociation letter 5 years ago.
since then i had been an atheist and trying all i can to spread awareness for “still in” members.
my wife and mom are still jws and i do get along with them perfectly.
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The young man, that studied with me, is no longer a JW as well.
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Disfellowshipped for being complicit in someone else's sin - really?!
by Isambard Crater ina close friend of mine who is pimo (only staying in for family reasons) in a neighboring congregation called me in tears tonight saying her dad (elder) is telling her he is seriously considering reporting her to her local elders and she could get disfellowshipped.. the reason?
because she is complicit in a gross sin, according to him, by going with her best friend (not a j.w.
) when the friend had an abortion.
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Should a JW taxicab driver, Uber or Lyft driver ask their patrons why they are going to a certain destination? They may be complicit in delivering a person to a swingers party, a drug house, a friends with benefits hook up, a drunken party, an abortion, or many another other things. Where does it stop? Granted, supporting a friend during a difficult situation is more involved than being hired as a driver. It would be a judicial matter for sure. It was her decision to make and it should be between her and her God. JWs mettle in too much stuff...like big government. They are always concerned about "dangers in the congregation."
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Cooperation and Conformity
by Saethydd ina common thing that jws point to as proof of god's blessing is the supposed cooperation between people of many different backgrounds.
however, i think there should be a distinction drawn between collaborations that are performed through true tolerance and open-mindedness towards another's point of view, and collaborations that are the result of a high level of conformity by its participants.. the former sort can be seen, for example, in the un, which while not perfect, i believe does try its best to foster true cooperation between people of all nations.
the latter of sort of cooperation, however, is more akin to the type found in communist dictatorships or countries controlled predominantly by a single religion which doesn't care to protect the rights of those in the religious minority.
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It's much easier to cooperate with those in the same mind set and beliefs as yours...like JW's uniform conformity. However, the real test of a human being is cooperating and accepting those who are not in the same place as you. JWs fail miserably at that.
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Family dynamics and cult influence
by longgone inthe following incident is nothing unusual to any jw, but i wanted to add on to the list of reasons to never join, and sympathize with those stuck in it, and again a reminder that you can never get away from the mayhem when you have family still in.
in a recent conversation with my jw sister who i love very much, i was reminded how complex and abnormal relationships can become within a jehovah's witness family.families relationships can be difficult with any religion or none, but once we throw in the various labels and restrictions within the jw family it becomes really cultish.
no one outside it could begin to understand.
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Great post! The JW family dynamics are tremendously exhausting! Your post magnified the "theocratic politics" that weave through families, immediate and extended, for generations. Throw in some divorces and remarriages and it really is exasperating. I'm sure that many on the forum have experiences such as yours...maybe even worse. Many families are so messed up over the JW minutia of BS.
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What Was/Is The Dumbest JW Belief?
by minimus ini think the finished mystery book probably contains the stupidest beliefs ever recorded!
almost any prophecy publication but especially anything to do with revelation, is unbelievable!
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The latest belief? They keep getting crazier. Overlapping generations....period
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Major changes to convention security beginning in 2017
by Edison Trent inshort info on interesting changes to the major conventions this year: there will be a new security concept that will be implemented at all regional conventions in 2017.. similar to other major events (e.g.
festivals, concerts), there will be admittance controls in stadiums.. - at each entrance, there will be a massive presence of attendants that look at each visitor.. - there will be pocket checks at the entrance.. - suspicious persons are no longer left on the convention grounds.. - suppliers to the stadium will be intensively inspected by attendants.. - there will be a special sign for attendants that must enter the stadium before 7.30 am.
all others (even all attendants) can only enter after 7.30 am..
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Maybe the "Society" can fleece some more money from the circuits and districts by selling them metal detectors at a "discounted" rate. That should be good for a couple more million.
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Which Watchtower publications did you keep?
by Schnufti ini'm currently cleaning up our bookcase and need to decide what goes into the trash.
i'll keep the watchtower books that are not available online anymore (e.g.
the brown "reasoning" book).
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I kept my Revelation, It's Grand Climax book. When I glance through it, I am reminded of how bat**it crazy this cult is. I had cut out and taped all the changes that were made between the first study and the second study. We fell for this crap and studied this dumb ass book twice...maybe three times. Can't remember. Man, I wasted alot of time of my life in the borg.
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Striking Out On My Own
by Saethydd inthose of you who know my story are aware that i'm currently disfellowshipped and living with my parents.
up until now, my plan has been to be reinstated and then fade, but recently my plans have changed.
in a conversation with my mother a few days ago and she made it clear that she would not be okay with me getting reinstated with the purpose of going inactive.
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Good for you! You made a great decision. Best wishes. Live well and never look back.
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Thinking about the faders in Russia
by Funchback inimagine that you are fading and then, one day, the government bans your religion.. you no longer should have to fake it.
your fade has now been done for you.. but, imagine the fader who now must attend bunker meetings just to maintain being part of the jw family.. for me, the ban would be my ticket out, but i imagine that some faders in russia are still forcing themselves to attend underground meetings.
for those faders in unbanned countries: would a ban be your ticket to religious freedom?.
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I feel as if fading in a banned society would be more difficult. The rank and file will hunker down and go underground with their meetings. There's a sense of camaraderie and slipping through the cracks and under the radar of the JW elder henchman would be harder. "If your not with us, you are against us." They would be cautious of those that are not at every meeting because they are weak and may turn us in. Everybody would be looking over their shoulder. The congregation would see this as a beginning of the great T. If you are not at every meeting, you will not make it through the tribulation and ultimately armageddon.