I loved your report, it was extremely interesting and you made some excellent comments.
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Underage Apostates
by Wordly Andre ini told my parents that do not want anything to do with jw's when i was 15, i stopped going to meeting (not that i was really going anyway), stopped going to assembly, even stopped the memorial.
at first it was guilt trips, crying, the whole what did we do wrong why are you doing this.
then the threats started, i will pull you out of public school and get rid of all your worldly friends that are a bad association, then it was well if you want to act like an adult then all you get is room and one meal a day we do not support those who turn their backs on jehovah.
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wow Andre what a mess your parents made. I just love how JW parents pick a portion of a bible text and try and apply it, case and piont Marjorie you said it right,
I have noticed in my brief life that parents are ever so quick to quote Ephesians 6: 2, 3 ("Honor your mother and father...that it may go well with you..."), but no one ever seems to read the verse immediately following: 'And you, fathers, do not be irritating (or provoking to wrath) your children'. The Bible shows that all relationships are to be founded on a equal footing of mutual love and respect. The only imbalanced relationship is that of God and Jesus toward us. Their love will always be the greater.
Some parents and even any witness for that matter just pick and choice and apply something to you that has nothing to do with what point they want t o punish you with.
I have a wacko family too. My passed away dead father was a hypocrite elder and I had a hysterical demonic mother and they would sometime beat me, dad love the strap. He loved smaking me in the back of the skull all the time and now that I am in my fifties I have skull problems big time, wondered if dad caused it all. And my fanatical mother whose head was always in a book and bible never paid much attention to the reality of life. Can u imagine going to bed every single night since the Society came out with LPs in the 60ties and that is what we had to listen to day and night and night and day. She wore out several sets until the cds were made and wow it was unreal. I quit school as a result of the constant fighting about 1975 and an education was worthless, Mom thought the demonic were everywhere in our home in the bedroom in the basement in the kitchen and living room. It was a nightmare.
They were expert at bribery, oh we will go to the meetings and then go out for dinner or we will go to service and then go out on a picnic or swimming or some other lame thing, and this one we will go out for pancake breakfast before meeting. Oh brother how I lasted as long as I did I will never know and yes it took me 38 years to figure I can do what the hell I want and no one is going to stop me ever again. HInd sight is 20 / 20.
You know what though, I feel pity just pity for all of those people who have devoted their lives to a lost cause.
My mom has been living like a hermit for years only doing the meeting thing and apparently now according to my non witness thank God Aunt tells me my mom has the meeting brought into her home via the sound system. She is a veggie waiting for some great big massive destruction that may or may not come and has completely forgot what real life is all about. Talk about brainwashed and stubbourn that is my mom in a nut shell. And yes dad departed this world in 95 after having been caught up on the bad habits of drinking and smoking again and only it was private but someone knew and that person shared that revelation with me just lately. What a wasted life.
Ah I love my life though and no one will ever ever convince me that the JW have the soul hold on life eternal.
They need to go and get a life.
Orangefatcat has risen from the ashes and soars like a bird now.
hang in gang,
luv ya Ofc.
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to all the friends at the toronto apostafest
by orangefatcat inmy dear friends, i feel so ashamed of myself for having not been in contact for over two weeks with anyone who was at the toronto fest, i have been so ill for the last two weeks or more and haven't even got onto my computer to tell all of you that it was grand and to especially thank two wonderfull persons in particular.
you know who you are and because i had misplaced your telephone number i wasn' t able to contact you and tell you how truly you made me feel so special that day.. could you please send me you phone number again and your address as i would like to send you a christmas card as well.. i met some fine wonderful people from all over the place.
this is one day i will cherish for the rest of my life.
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I am sorry it has taken me forever to get back to this thread,.I ju st don't have much strength in my body and arms and hands especially. I first of all want to wish all American/s a wonderful Thanksgiving and next my favourite time of year Chirstmas. May all of you be blessed through out this holiday season.
Oh I had a grand time for sure, It brought to me many tears as I realized so many of you made that day a perfect day for me. It is so true only true love is found among the group who have been deeply hurt by the the WTS and certain individuals. I strongly believe that seeing how so many of us have been stung badly in that terrible organization it is a pleasure to see the love that we always have had come to life when we are together for gatherings such as the one in Toronto. And all the others apostofests world wide. we are a greater brother and sisterhood far superior to that of the JW. Perhaps it was our love that people in the organization didn't understand, or want for that matter. We have more love in one baby finger then they do in an entire so called loving organization. Hoorah for us.
I felt both blessed and honoured to be included in that apostofest. It made my heart melt. Thanks again.
Some of the MRI results show I have inflammation in my skull as it thickens with excess bone growth it leaves little space and so it hits nerves roots and causes severe headaches. I believe that the doctors feel the same is happening in my neck and rest of the spine. This is what is causing the inflammation. I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
Janet I lost your phone number would you please sent it to me again. Thanks. You are one living example that I know Christ would be honoured to call you one of his true disciples. God bless you all, one and all
with much love
Orangefatcat.
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to all the friends at the toronto apostafest
by orangefatcat inmy dear friends, i feel so ashamed of myself for having not been in contact for over two weeks with anyone who was at the toronto fest, i have been so ill for the last two weeks or more and haven't even got onto my computer to tell all of you that it was grand and to especially thank two wonderfull persons in particular.
you know who you are and because i had misplaced your telephone number i wasn' t able to contact you and tell you how truly you made me feel so special that day.. could you please send me you phone number again and your address as i would like to send you a christmas card as well.. i met some fine wonderful people from all over the place.
this is one day i will cherish for the rest of my life.
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my dear friends, I feel so ashamed of myself for having not been in contact for over two weeks with anyone who was at the Toronto fest, I have been so ill for the last two weeks or more and haven't even got onto my computer to tell all of you that it was grand and to especially thank two wonderfull persons in particular. You know who you are and because I had misplaced your telephone number I wasn' t able to contact you and tell you how truly you made me feel so special that day.
Could you please send me you phone number again and your address as I would like to send you a Christmas card as well.
I met some fine wonderful people from all over the place. This is one day I will cherish for the rest of my life. I guess some photos may have been posted and right now just typing this is exhasting to me. I know I have found out that from my MRI that I have extra bone growth in my skull and it is hitting the nerve center causing me to suffer from unbearable head aches and my skull has inflamation as the bone and cartilage continue to grow it makes for little space causing this conditon and is also the same thing in my neck. I am constantly in a state of fatigue and don't know what it is from. Must tell the doctor as it is so overwhelming. Some days I think I have mono, but I am just guessing. I had this happen to me in the 1991-93 and now it is worse and in the past when this happened I didn't know that I was ill. So I think something is happening inside my body. but I truly needed to get on here and express my profound love and graditude to all who made my trip to Toronto a real blessing and I pray God blesses you richly for your kindness and generosity.
love to all
Orangefatcat
if you don't see me on the board know that I am thinking about all of you and hopefully what ever is going on physically will pass soon. And I will be back to the board soon. Hopefully..
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I'm a Grandma!
by Crafty Lady inmy son and daughter-in-law had twins yesterday, a boy and a girl.
(6 pounds 10 oz.
and 7 pounds 2 oz.
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What wonderful news and a grand blessings to all in the family.
My husband was a twin. He was a gentle lamb.
I hope your lives are filled with happiness and joy always.
Praise be to God that they are both big babes and healthy.
all the very best .
love Orangefatcat
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Canadian Loonie closes above US Dollar...
by zeroday inhttp://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/09/28/loonie.html?ref=rss.
how will this affect canadian exports to the us....
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well all I can say is this, when our dollar was stronger than the american dollar, most canadians travelled to the usa for bargins, I recall when I was a teenager we often took trips across the the border to buy clothing. I was okay. It took the canadain dollar over 30 years to climb back up there.
what this means on the world market , I have no idea, guess we have to wait and see.
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5000 PAGES OF DOCUMENTS OF JW PEDOPHILE CASES AVAILABLE! B ANDERSON BOOK
by Seeker4 inbarbara anderson has just released a new book on cd that contains some 5000 pages of public court records from the nine lawsuits involving 16 victims that the wts settled secretly in may of this year, plus documents from two other cases the society settled in 2000 and 2006.. .
its called secrets of pedophilia in an american religion: jehovahs witnesses in crisis.. .
the book, and more info from barbara about it, is available here:.
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Wow!! I just read this entire post and I must say it is so fascinating that I couldn't miss a single word. I am eagerly awaiting a copy of this informative CD.
So many interesting thoughts and ideas and thrills. By that I mean the eagerness to see the depravity of the WTS and its minions for those who choose to keep this under the carpet. Funny thing GB members it is all going to come and bite you back for your millions of lies, deceptions, coverups, and horrors that many have had to endure under your suppression. Our dearest treasures our children.. May you run and hide from the hand of God that will wipe you off the face of this earth.
Hurrah for Barb and her family for having the strenght to take on such an enormous undertaking. You will open the minds and hearts of millions as they come to see for themselves the evil that lurks in the WTBTS. The congregations and elders and publishers who have said nothing will now see first hand the truth about the Society. How could they have believed for one minute that this wasn't going to happen to them . The Tower is crumbling all around them. The true truth will prevail.
Several mentioned the Sept. KM Question Box, would anyone happen to have a scanned copy of that question from the KM? I would like to read it.
Barbara and hubby you are just what God ordered His instrument to bring down the walls of Jericho., or in this case the WTS.
I give thanks to God for you and your courageous battles and the undertaking this massive project. May He bless you and your family always.
your friend
Terry aka Orangefatcat
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Filmmaker Looking for JW Pedophile Victim CAN ANYONE HELP?
by Seeker4 ina very reputable documentary film producer would like to talk to a woman between 19-25 years old who is taking legal action in order to vindicate child sex crimes perpetrated against her and covered up by the wt society or their elders.
specifically, the "cover up," as in not reporting the crime to secular authority, should have occurred after 2002 in canada or us.
if you can help out or have information, please pm me.
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how about the young girl who was portrayed in the DateLine from a few yrs ago. Her name was Holly. Maybe someone else can recall her last name
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Death Walk
by orangefatcat inthis morning when i left church i was scooting down the side street close to my building and lo and behold for the first time in months and months i see two witnesses going from door to door.
i knew immediatley they were jw's .
as the sauntered up the street to the door it was as if they were doing a death walk, .
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This morning when I left church I was scooting down the side street close to my building and lo and behold for the first time in months and months I see two witnesses going from door to door. I knew immediatley they were JW's . As the sauntered up the street to the door it was as if they were doing a death walk,
Like this is the last thing I would love to do on the face of the earth, that was the impression I got. The one witness knocked at the door the other witness was staring in to what appeared to be outer space. No word of a lie. It was dreadful and I was thankful I no longer walk that dead walk.
Orangefatcat.
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Aug 15th WT
by mouthy inhas anyone read it "jehovah is a lover of justice " page 26 paragraph 16 & 18 please read it .
what rubbish .
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Holy smokes, I do indeed a huge barf bucket too.
who are they trying to fool, you get the feeling that for all the legal matters against the organization are attacks from Satan and his hordes, like us apostates, give us a break, all these actions are taken because they are liars and they have diluted themselves to believe their own drivel. Who are they kidding? Like it is just so pathetic. The JW's within the organization are attacking the Governing Body within,sueing them, for pedophilia, blood issues, transplants the UN matter, and the lose of human lives due to suicides because these dear people can't understand where is the justice. How can a house stand against itself and not expected to be destroyed within?. They are doing just fine by themselves.( I hope I worded that right).
I swear that most JW's in this continent alone have not much love for their bro. and sis. in the org. or even within their own homes. I bet most feel like they live under a microscope, like some virus or plauge. Or how about the spying that the elders do to families trying to catch them doing something unscriptual so they can disfellowship them.
Look into the faces of witnesses you know, I can tell you for a certainity they are fantastic actors and actresses putting on some false facade giving the pretence that they are the happiest and most loving persons within the WTS organization and in this so called evil world. They are no part of this system of things. That is what they assert. Again lies, lies ,and more lies. By God they were standing with the UN. apart of the devils earthly organizatio as they claim. They would as soon pretent that there is so little pedophilia that it is not a major reason for concern, appartently they have it all under control. Yes like my bladder!!!!!
You know what I did, I got super brave and contacted my witness sister and my mom through my sister. I told them upfront that if what I think of them as regards the resent passing of my husband and Richard's step father. Here is what I said to her in the email. Regarding there so called love .
Ta... , I was wondering why you and mom and my other sisters snubbed Richard and I when my beloved husband Marco died? It is one thing to ignore me, I know why you do it, but its quite an other when not one of you showed an once of sympathy towards Richard. Richard was a major part of our lives and that meant Marco. He loved Marco dearly. I find it so rude that all you did this. Perhaps when someone you loves dies and someone ignores you or the one you lose then you will know what it feels like. You could have even sent him a sympathy card, but none of you did that. You all should be ashamed of yourselves. You call yourself a Christian well if that is how you interept Jesus example of love and sympathy then I am so glad to no longer belong to the witness organization. your sister Terry
You get sick and tired of them fooling themselves and the people they preach and teach too. They have mastered deciption. It is an art to them. If what they claim is love for one another I surely would love to see what masquarding costumes they all wear and the masks they put on their faces. They themselves are their own worst enemy. With in their own wall at home and in the kingdom hall and conventions. I feel pity for them. It is grand to be no part of them. Orangefatcat
