Posts by orangefatcat

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I Caused a Complete Seen at the Bookstudy Tonight...

by cognac in

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orangefatcat

Cognac,

Congratulations about the little one to come.

I too am like yourself, who wants to be around oafs that are spreading sneezing, wheezing, coughing, germs all over the place. I missed a lot of meetings due to sickness over the years and was looked down on for it. But I don't believe in giving others my illness.

I must admitt that I have had a chronic cough for years and I can't shake it. The doctors are now concerned. I have asthma bad. I may because of that. But at any time I can just spontaniously start coughing and can't control it. In May 2007 I had a rare form of pnemonia was in the hospital 11 days. I have a very weak immunity system. I don't think that the witnesses ever cared about how sick I was with this chronic cough, they just wanted me at meetings and service. I could be ready to fall flat on my face but so long as Iwas at meetings and service they were happy. But then I said no more I am not going out when I am sick like this I don't want people sick near me and I don't want to give people my sickness should I be ill.

it is only common courtesy.

I always have a handkerchief with me and some halls and purell to wash my hands.

I am glad you stuck up for yourself and your unborn baby, you had every right and I am proud of you. You go girl.

Orangefatcat.

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Medical Marijuana

by wha happened? in

has anyone tried it?

if so for what ailment and how effective was it?

orangefatcat

I use MM and it has been a big help in the treatment of my pain management.

I find it very helpful and has a real calming effect. I don't get the munchies either.

Orangefatcat

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My brother is missing...

by Country Girl in

my brother disappeared day before yesterday.

he is schizophrenic, so there is no telling what happened.

please, if you see him, please report it to the police.

orangefatcat

My heart sunk when I started reading your post and by the time I got to the next page my heart lept with joy as your brother was found. Praise be to the Lord. I was praying as I was reading and then was relieved with happiness when you said he was found.

My heart rejoices with yours CG.

God Bless you all,

Orangefatcat

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Are JWS really cheap or poor?

by heyfea in

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one thing i've noticed in all the congs.

let's say that a couple in the cong.

gets married and they choose to have a party at a caters.

orangefatcat

I think for the most part they are cheap. But if the person marrying is someones daughter and the father is a prominent person such as a D.O. or a CO. I see them getting lots of money and even some affluent in the cong. but those are few and far between.

My first wedding in 1973 Feb. I had 500 guests I paid out of my own pocket about 100.00$ and that was for the wedding cake everthing else was provided by the brothers and sister in the congr. even the alcohol. Yes this is the one and only cong. I enjoyed as a JW. We had a really good spirit in that hall and in fact I lived in that KH up stairs and we had many foreigners in our cong. and they are so generous, there was so much food left over. It was grand. We recieved alot of money from these witnesses because they really loved us as we loved them and they are the ones I will never forget. That is the part you miss when you D"F. and you can't do a damn thing about it .

My second marriage we had 40 guests and paid around $650.00 for the wedding and food and it was great. The temperature was the only bad thing it was 104 degrees outside in the shade, thank goodness my girlfriend had lots of trees in her yard where we were married. We recieved beautiful gifts and money and there were no witnesses at it., Even some of the neighbours came over and joined in the merriement of the occasion.

Orangefatcat

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Defence of watchtower society Links

by reniaa in

i thought long and hard before making this thread, that many will not agree with it but i think there needs to be balance and people to realise there are alternate viewpoints out there on many of these subjects, the ones that are most spoke about on this forum.

i was recently sent a full message containing mary's book and these links give the rebuttal to many of her points.

those that are still open-minded enough feel free to look over them even if in the end you still don't agree at least you have heard both the defence as well as the attack as they are on the internet.

orangefatcat

I too have a comment to make, regarding symbols, sticks, crosses etc.. When God sent Moses and Aaron to speak before Pharoah Moses had been given a staff which was used by Aaron to render judgements or plagues against the Egyptians. As we know there were 10 in all. Well what does this mean? Just this,,,

Eventually the Arc of the Covenant was made and part of the contents in that Arc was that very staff that Moses and Aaron used against Pharaoh and it also bloomed with a flower and also there were the Tablets of the Ten commandments which were written by the hand of God, and the show bread. If objects to God are idols or images as you suggest then why did the Isrealites have these sacred items stored in the most Holy of Holy's in the Tabernackle and eventually in the Temple?. These were precious in the eyes of God. To the point if any should just touch the Arc certain death would befall them.

We know that is true as some one did indeed touch it and died instantly. Only the priests and Highpriest were to carry and handle it. In the most Holy it was by the High Priest

So if you feel that having a symbol of the cross or crux is wrong then you'll have to say that what God used was and kept in the Arc of the Covenant was wrong too. Those were symbols used by God .

The items in the Arc were a constant reminder to the nation of Isreal as to their sacred service to God and a reminder to future generation of Isrealites the importance of pure worship.

The WTS Organization has committed the worst sin of all it has fornicated with Satan's visible earthlyorganization they have stood on the thing that is disgusting and filthy in God's eyes. What greater sin could they have committed? They make claim they knew nothing of the oath that they had to sign but that is a lie, no one signs documents without reading them first. What a cop out. They knew full well what they were doing, its just they got caught with their hands in the Devils cookie jar. Lets see. 666, yep thats the Devils number on that wild beasty. And religious harlot fornicating with the image of the wild beast the United Nations. Oh for shame. Oh the harlot yes that is world empire of false religion...........let me say that again, false religion... yep that is right.

So there it is in a nut shell.

Orangefatcat

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Nov 5 Dr. Phil - Cult Mind Control - WATCH TONIGHT!

by still_in74 in

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wednesday - november 5, 2008mind control?its hard to believe, but in america alone, there may be as many as 5,000 religious groups preying upon the weak and vulnerable, and all in the name of god.

dr. phils guests have warnings for you and your children.

seeta says when her 18-year-old daughter joined a religious group called 1 mind ministries, she left home with her 7-month-old son and never returned.

orangefatcat

To be completely honest, I have never liked Dr. Phil, I find him to be a big phony and a blow heart. I can't imagine him doing anything really constructive for anyone that doesn't benefit him and his name. At least that is my opinion and I am sticking to it.

I also think he is so full of himself and talks just at people rather then to people.

orangefatcat.

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Dec. 15th WT - About " Integrity " - Hypocrisy Galore - What Do You Think?

by flipper in

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my lurking jw friend sent me a copy of this new dec.15th rubbish on " holding fast to your integrity " - and i don't know if it's the fact i've been out of the witnesses 5 years or not - but the ludricousness of this information seems to be increasing to me.

once again the watchtower society makes big issues of miniscule , small time actions raising the fire alarm , but gloss over more serious sins like murder , for instance .

for example , check this tidbit out from paragraph 10 - " we know that god's word forbids fornication.

orangefatcat

before I left the organization I had a conversation with a young sister whose family and I have been friends of for over 26yrs so I know her very well. she confided in me one day about the younger people in the congregation and told me of some instances where a couple were going to be married and the groom was out with another sister other then his soon to be bride, and what they were doing was some heavy petting as we use to call it. She didn't want to say anything to the elders because she didn't want to be on the outs with the young people in the KH , and I couldn't force her to say anything I merely admonished her as to what to do but she didn't say anything as the wedding went one as planned. Take note their marriage didn't last to long. I wonder why? I thought afterward that this must be a huge problem among young people. However it isn't just young people older couples do it too. Its rather Ironic isn't it that the society calls it fornication but if it were two brothers or two sisters doing it it would be called homosexuality. Go figure. Yet alot of married couples practise these same so called non sexual acts. Of course the WTS doesn't even make mention of that fact. Apparently the elders don't even involve themselves with what goes on in the marital bed anymore unless one complains is perversion.

Yes your right they seem to put more emphasis on heavy petting or whatever it is called today by young people, then on the issues of extreme importance like molestation, sexual perversation, it is as if they are almost to afraid to acknowledge this in their WT magazine. They would rather leave it alone and cover it up and hope it would go away, but they forgot one thing. Didn't they think these kids would grow up one day and blow the whistle on their abusers. I mean the Society must keep their heads in the sand to think it wouldn't come out one day. Thank God for the Andersons, Bill Bowen. Rick Feron, and all the other exjws who are ardently work at keeping the proper truth known about the organization.

Lets not forget all the other things the society is responsible for as in breaking up families, making people die, changing policies on transplants, the number of suicides committed, the countless lives that have been lost in Malawi women children and men alike who where murdered and persecuted because ofa card and yet the brothers in Mexico bribed the authorities and this was okay with the Society. And the list goes on and on. The UN thing is also another thing the society covered up until it was exposed and they were so blase about the who thing.

orangefatcat

Orangefatcat.

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The devil appears at JW convention in N.Y.

by kool aid man06 in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn8t8pihina&feature=related

orangefatcat

Well quite frankly I think the guy in the devil suit laid it on to thick. I mean the whole purpose of getting people away from the Organization is to make a good argumentation, but screaming like a banshee is stupid. What did it accomplish, nothing, he made everyone look like idiots and thats what gives apostates bad reputations. He would have been better off speaking and holding a placard up and never mind the stupidity of Russell or Rutherford that isn't what is going to make witnesses see the light, we have to show them the lies, and cover ups and they the G.B were standing on the thing that is so disgusting and and abomination to God they fornicated with the image of the wild beast the UN nations the earthly organization of Satan. There constant changing of blood policy's and the issues of now being able to accept transplants. Where will it all end? Will lawsuits bankrupt the society? These are the issues we need to discuss with JW's After we reach them with this then we can show them all the other stuff of Russell and Rutherford and those who practised homosexuality while condemning it on the platform at meetings and assemblies. Didn't they ever think it would be exposed to the world? Sorry friend I just don't see the point of this nut dressed as the devil. Orangefatcat

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The devil appears at JW convention in N.Y.

by kool aid man06 in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn8t8pihina&feature=related

orangefatcat

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How will the Society prepare JWs when they call on inactive apostates?

by truthseeker in

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a critical mass of exjws is gradually being reached.

perhaps eventually, there might be several in each town.. inevitably, faithful witnesses will call on these ones, unsuspecting of who they are, what they believe and such prepared demonstration of "how to place the magazines" will not go down well.. reading the many experiences here, for the most part, many exjws try to plant a seed in the mind of the witnesses.. this seed may be discussed with other members of the car group.

the conversation may go nowhere, but a seed has been planted and someone or something will keep on making it grow.. thus spread the seeds of doubt and discontent.. it's the converted preaching to the unconverted who in turn witness to the converted.. the society have a real mess on their hands - exjws are no longer an unknown quantity, a fringe element.

orangefatcat

Firstly I would never admitt to being an inactive apostate. I wouldn't even mention the fact that I was a witness for 38 years. I would talk to them , so long as I don't know them, I am very well know far , near and abroad., But if this person didn't know me I would play a mind game or two with their head. I could say I am a Bible Scholar or I am a Student in University and am planning on attending Trinity College.

I would indeed love to get their knickers in a knot, it would be fun. But I live in a very high security dwelling a health center so it is almost impossible to gain entrace here. But witnesses aren't stupid they can con their ways in.

orangefatcat will eat the rats.