"He's a real shit brickhouse" - if you know the original, you'll know why...
oscartheduck
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EVERYONE CAN'T BE IN THE FRONT ROW!
by Kay Francis inin the organization, we had [have] limited choices of who can be our friends.
oftentimes, we had [have] to deal with many people we did [do] not like and pretend to be their friends.
of course, we also had [have] to deal with people who carry a lot of baggage and it was difficult.
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oscartheduck
It's nice to be reminded of this, especially with the new year, and therefore symbolic new beginnings, coming up for us all.
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What is EVIL? Who Defines?
by D wiltshire inwhat is evil?.
who defines what is truly evil?.
if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.
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oscartheduck
"With regards to your little strawman about me being off topic when I was talking about right and wrong and you were talking about evil, I will just ask you this question: If God defines evil, is it logical to conclude that he then does NOT also define right and wrong? If not, why not?"
It was me who originally brought this up.
Now, it's ten to eight, so I might not be functioning correctly. Mytypos are far more vast, and the delete key is being used liberally to correct this. But I'll try to explain it, anyway.
According to the dictionary, RIGHT means, in part: "2 : being in accordance with what is just, good, or proper <right conduct>
3 a : agreeable to a standard" and GOOD means, in part,: " a (1) : VIRTUOUS, RIGHT, COMMENDABLE <a good person>", so we can see the distinction here between right and good, namely that right UPHOLDS to a standard, and good IS that standard.So, the attempt herein is either to define GOOD and therefore negatively define EVIL (because that is, after all, the point of this thread), or to define EVIL, and come to a conclusion.
Describing RIGHT actions can help us come to a conclusion about some of the features that GOOD entails, but it can never tell us what GOOD actually IS. IT's like showing people a beautiful flower, a beautiful woman, a beautiful painting, and a beautiful scene, and telling them you have defined beauty. You haven't, you've simply shown some aspects of it.
Thus, in claiming that through defining right as actions performed by God, you're telling us that we can see things upholding to the standard of GOOD. However, for the purposes of the negative definition of EVIL it becomes necessary to cut to the chase, so to speak, and say that if the actions of God are RIGHT then the definition that we are after, ie GOOD, is...and then state whatever the logical conclusion is (which is, I believe, in this case, whatever moral code God adheres to).
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The elusive Brother Some.
by Norm inthe elusive brother some and the watchtower society.. in brooklyn , they have for years been bothered by a shady and very mystical brother.
they usually call him some.
we receive constant reassurances from the watchtower that what is printed in the literature is the truth.
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oscartheduck
Norm, congratulations, that's probably the finest post I've read here.
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What is EVIL? Who Defines?
by D wiltshire inwhat is evil?.
who defines what is truly evil?.
if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.
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oscartheduck
Not necessarily off topic, but certainly starting to sway a little...
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hello all--new to board; my story
by razorMind inhello everyone...hope all are having a great holiday season.. ***warning--kind of long***.
i am 31 and have been "out" for an undetermined # of years...probably starting as soon as i moved out of the house at age 23. i just "drifted away".. i was born into the jw faith.
my parents remain devout and "zealous" to this day.
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oscartheduck
Regarding the higher education, my school was pressing for me to apply to Oxford and Cambridge, but I never did because of my parents.
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Talk with a Governing Body member
by roybatty inwhat would you say to a governing body member if you had the chance?
a few years back while i was a jw i visited my sister and brother-in-law at bethel.
well, after the grand tour of crooklyn, the farm and having dinner with the bethel family i had the honor of attending the sunday meeting at a congregation where a couple of the governing body members attended.
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oscartheduck
Ask one how Ray was getting along?
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Done or not done?
by oscartheduck inwhat's more important?
what i'm getting at is, is it more important to impose your views on what is right in the bible, or to encourage other members of your religion?.
i remember that my past seems to be more a memory of elders telling people "oh, that's wrong.
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oscartheduck
What's more important? What's done or what's not done?
What I'm getting at is, is it more important to impose your views on what is right in the bible, or to encourage other members of your religion?
I remember that my past seems to be more a memory of elders telling people "Oh, that's wrong." Than it is of elders telling people "Hey, I'll work with you on the ministry, and I'll generally try and help you out."
I think you know what I'm getting at. If anyone can phrase it in a more clear way, that'd be a help.
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Book Burning!!
by Pork Chop inyou guys are going to love this one.
can't say i've ever seen a book burning down at the old kh.
feel free to turn it into a link.. http://www.alamogordonews.com/stories/0,1002,9596%257e295774,00.html.
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oscartheduck
I detect an imposition of a fellow-witnesses conscience in the air.
Again.
Anyway, this kind of thing is old hat. Do a web search ona decent search engine using key words like evil and potter and see what you find.
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What is EVIL? Who Defines?
by D wiltshire inwhat is evil?.
who defines what is truly evil?.
if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.
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oscartheduck
"Next as to the 2 choices I will give you a third plus a few more"
You say that it'd be more, but these are just sub-categories inside of Farkels all-inclusive two categories. So you haven't stated more, simply shown you never understood what Farkel said.
"As to your more down to earth illustration from Numbers(better than donald duck). I don't know enough and neither do your to call this right or wrong, and I direct you to my profile signature for the logic behind my refrain from judgement"
But given Farkel's reasoning, then we DO know enough to say whether it's right or wrong. Farkel uses the biblical definition of right ie an action God performs, and asks you to say whether THIS is an action God performs or not, hence whether it is right.
And your profile signature, asking whether, essentialy, someone more intelligent than you would come up with the same conclusions, well, that depends whether he had more data on the given situation, and I suggest that you alter your signature to fit in with your attempt at a point, or alter your point to fit in with your signature.
Interestingly, we're getting into how to define RIGHt or WRONG, not GOOD and EVIL.
Odd how many people confuse the two.
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The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126 "As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible "