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  Leaving JW Tracts at the Funeral Visitation

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw's cannot help themselves.

  a couple who were very close friends with my wife and i when i was a jw had a few kids that grew up.

  none of their kids remained jw despite their heavy activity while growing up.

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  It infuriates me when I see JWs do that at funerals. It is like theere only goal in life is to constantly plug for the organization.
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  "We are not allowed to have credit cards."

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was traveling and used my credit card to buy a gift at the airport.. so the lady behind the counter flips my credit card over to look at the signature and it says "see i.d.

  " where my signature belonged.

  she asked for the i.d.. .

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  There have been several announcements of "______ is no longer a jehovahs witness" in my wife's congregation. She seems to revel in this supposed effort in "keeping the congregation clean", the thought that this is discipline, and that nobody in the congregation is not allowed to talk to that person.

  She often laments the fact of the hard life and difficult circumstances she faced coming up where there were several times where her family didn't want to have anything to do with her. All of their reasons stemmed from how it would impact peoples perception of the family or thier position in the congregation.

  I wonder would she be so forgiving of them and stop complaining, even now, about how she was treated if they told her that their actions against her was discipline from jehovah and that nobody was allowed to talk to her.
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  How Many Out There Have to Hide or Be Stealthy When They Visit This Site? I know I do.

  by PaintedToeNail in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i cannot look at this site freely, it would make my hubby and son very upset.

  i have to hide what i'm looking at, or try to view this page very late or very early in the morning.

  hubby has taken to getting up at 11:30pm or later, to see what i'm doing on the computer.

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  I never wasn't any good at playing that "incognito" thing when I was making my way out of that farce of a religion. I let her, my wife, and elders at her behest know, on more than a few occasions, that there would be no browbeating or guilt tripping when they dared try to project authority over me.

  I guess I'm LUCKY I haven't been announced as "no longer a JW" yet!!!! ROFL.

  But, working in the computer industry, I've always had my own laptops I didn't have to share with anyone to surf with.

  One day my wife happened to pick up my laptop and call herself using it. She opened up the browser and the first page to come up was from this site. She was irritated to say the least, but didn't say anything to me outright in defense of her cherished religion.....just kept reiterating over and over for awhile that if I wanted "real" information about the witnesses that I shouldeither read their material or ask one.

  Yeah...Right!!!!

  I guess she'd forgotten that I was baptised as one and actually believed it for awhile. Furthermore, after living with her playing the little zealous witness for about 20 years at that time, I was well aware of how they will "soft-pedal" what really goes on when it reflects badly upon their organization.

  One day, my BIL was over my house and picked up my laptop and started using it. He proclaimed to his staunch JW wife "look, they have Russel's will on this site!!!" She was not amused and I'm sure she gave him holy hell after they left.

  My wife has learned to stay off of my electronic devices, my phones and computers. I fully support her in her activities, she knows, as long as they don't interfere with what I want to do for myself or big activities I plan for the two of us. She's fully aware of how I feel about religion in general and the WT soceity in particular to not go there with me under any circumstances.

  I guess I've drydocked her much too many times in the past when she's tried challenging me with WT dogma.
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  my diehard jw wife has never had a bible study...

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i mean how many of them really even want that?...most jws give away any interested person to a good ol pioneer..and not sure how many of them really want to make a disciple either....i mean she drives around endlessly with her chick friends...lots of starbucks...dunkin and kk...and they dont want a frikkin study....really????

  ?...........just a vent...oompa.

  btw in my legal divorce papers response today i did say she was not blameless...stated that chose to be part of a religious sect that shuns me totally since i am no longer a believer...and that it has caused me extreme distress and anxiety....

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  In my wife's entire witness career spanning some three decades, she has only had a handful of studies. Never brought one to baptism. Most of them fadded away or dropped her as soon as they figured out that their bills wouldn't be subsidized.

  All that preperation and door to door work.....a collassal waste of time and resources.
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  My brothers wedding...

  by IronHill in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ...is today.

  he stated to me that he really wanted me to attend the ceremony, so me and lorijis will be attending the ceremony this evening.

  i dont know if we'll be ready for all of the shunning that will occur, but i want to be there and so does he.. the funny thing is we never received an invitation or anything to let us know about the wedding.

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  I know this is an old post, but, if I would've paid for that cake, I'd have packed it up and took it with me on my way out the door.

  Let all them freeloaders go out and share a sheet cake from walmart.
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  Hubby has finally come around....had to share!

  by meangirl in

  1. jw
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  some of you may or may not know but i came out before my husband.

  he has not been to the meetings in 4 years but still acted like a witness.

  i know it has been hard on him as he was raised a witness and i was not.

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  That is fantastic.

  Next year is going to be huge for you.
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  Time for another school update!! Really great news!!!

  by noni1974 in

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  i just got my offical grades from my school.

  for the first time ever in my life i earned a 4.0 gpa for this last semester.

  i made the dean's list again for the fall 2011 semester.

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  Awesome!!!!!
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  Charity begins at home

  by Mickey mouse in

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  i wanted to get this down in type before the thought is lost.. this afternoon, i gave two hours of my time to help a local charity raise money by packing groceries in a supermarket.

  the charity provide support to families who have a child affected by a disability that, well, let's just say it's close to my heart.

  as i drove the twenty minute journey to the supermarket in question, i struggled with some feelings which i understand are part of something called dissociative disorder, sometimes experienced as part of post traumatic stress disorder.

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  When working on my resume I was told by my mom to list volunteer/charity work I've done. I told my mom that I hadn't done any. She said "What about preaching?" I never put it on because I didn't see how preaching was helping anybody.

  Don't ever, EVER put that on a resume. In the early days of our marriage, my wife used to put that on resumes thinking it would curry favor with a potential employer. I was mortified the first time I saw her doing that while she babbled the usual canned WT excrement of it being a lifesaving work more important than anything else. "We're out there because we love and care about people"...... JW's may rationalize that within themselves but outside of their little clique, they come off as being world class idiots.

  It never, EVER worked for her........

  Let me tell you as a member of several hiring committee's a year, If I ever saw something like that on a resume or anything alluding to participation in WT sponsored activities as a volunteer charitable work, that resume would be file 13'd without even a passing thought.
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  COC in public libraries

  by diamondiiz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i haven't researched this but do library have copies of this book?

  did you ever look for coc or any other book in a local library when you were a believer or when you began to have doubts?

  how hard is it to find this book in a public library?.

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  It was from the library that I first came into contact with this book. And, even the, I was looking over my shoulder as I was checking it out thinking that the big bad sock puppet god jehovah would strike me down with a lightening bolt just for thinking about looking at and reading it.

  Read it from cover to cover during my down time at work.

  Confirmed my suspicions that the WT organization is one big multi-level pyramid scheme in religious garb.
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  End of School for Now ( I should be excited.........but)

  by out4good3 in

  1. social
  2. family

  it's been a hard fought couple of years, but, finally, with great trepidation, i find myself graduating next weekend with the college degree i should've graduated with 25 years ago.

  oh, i've got both two year college degrees under my belt, but this time it is the big kahuna, a bachelors degree.

  summa cum laude with a near perfect gpa to boot.. i think back on the time when i first proposed going back to school with my wife......how she and the elders who visited me poo-pooed education and exclaimed that it would be a big waste of time.

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  It's been a hard fought couple of years, but, finally, with great trepidation, I find myself graduating next weekend with the college degree I should've graduated with 25 years ago. Oh, I've got both two year college degrees under my belt, but this time it is the big kahuna, a bachelors degree. Summa Cum Laude with a near perfect GPA to boot.

  I think back on the time when I first proposed going back to school with my wife......how she and the elders who visited me poo-pooed education and exclaimed that it would be a big waste of time. How they proclaimed that I should be going to meetings more or looking for ways to be more active in the congregation and pioneer. If I had taken that advice, in this current financial market, we'd both still be sitting in a one bedroom apartment trying to figure out how to make next months rent.

  Every aspect of our lives have improved I think in part of my educational endeavors and my refusal to follow their ill conceived advice, rules and paint myself into the WT well designed corner. We've went from living in a one bedroom apartment with nothing but a full size boxspring and mattress on the floor and a black and white 13" TV to living a pretty standard middle class lifestyle. I've went from a typical burger flipping job at the local greasy spoon to a pretty stable job in technology that pays well. It has been 15 years since she has worked secularly. Our only kid is well adjusted, out on his own and self supporting. In all respects, I should be feeling like Job well done.....Right?

  My wife was getting ready for meeting today and she came into the room with a sad look on her face wringing her hands. I asked her what was the problem....she just looked down at her feet and refused to answer. I asked her to come and sit next to me which she did. I calmly asked her what was the problem and if there was anything she needed or anything I can do. She said nothing, so, I pulled her next to me and gave her a kiss on the cheek. Thereafter, she continued finishing getting dressed and went to meeting.

  But, I knew what was on her mind. I'd seen that look before. I'm not going to meetings anymore. I'm not a believer anymore. And that makes her sad. Yes she's happy that I'm graduating, talks me up to her friends all the time, is just as much interested in my final grades as I am, and have actually encouraged me to seek a masters, but in all, its really just formally dressing up a pig in the eyes of her faith.

  But I am trudging on....... I make her life as easy as I can and in all other aspects she respects and appreciates it. And I am finding satisfaction and contentment in our lives where I can.

  Kinda feel like I'm babbbling. But here goes......

  Had a talk with the boss the other day. Big change of plans for me coming up that will only enhance my professional growth and employable desirability. For the next few weeks I am going to have to find some activity to fill in the time I usually spent studying, reading or writing reports. But, near the end of next month, it begins again. The pursuit of a masters. On to bigger and better.