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The word "and" presents some difficulties which are not apparent to the casual reader. There is considerable doubt in the minds of most scholars as to whether Jack was actually accompanied by Jill, in the sense that the phrase is intended to record an historical historical event.

In setting out upon this expedition, which was apparently undertaken for a specific purpose, or, at least, with some definite object in mind, it seems likely that Jack was stimulated to undertake this mission by a basic need for water. Since most functions in the home involving water, such as cooking, washing clothes, scrubbing floors, etc., are normally undertaken by the distaff side, it is widely held that the force of "and" in this context probably means Jack set out with a strong picture image of Jill in his mind, and several esistentialist scholars also insist that her parting words were undoubtedly ringing in his ears.

Grosskopf, in his monumental essar entitled "Jackmitjilldamrotarung," takes a contrary view. He dates this passage considerably earlier than is generally believed (somewhere between 404 B.C. and the 19th amendment). On this basis he maintains that the hewing of wood and the drawing of water were exclusively carried on by women of that period, and that the words "Jack and" are a gloss by some later copist, and did not appear in the original manuscripts.

"Went up the hill" is obviously allegorical. The ancients, although probably ignorant of Otis' First Law of Evaluation (What goes up must come down") were well aware that the transfer of water by artificial means normally involves transportation from an inferior to a superior position (e.g., The Old Oaken Bucket, Down by the Old Mill Stream, etc.). Professor Gard de L'Eau, the distinguished hydrographer and mystic, suggests that this anabasis symbolizes man's struggle to rise nearer to ultimate unity with the cosmic. The water, he continues, has precisely the same symbolism as the crossing of the Red Sea, the Jordan, Lindbergh's trip across the Atlantic, and the landing on the Omaha Beach in World War 11, with which everyone is familiar.

"Fetch" in the original was probably "carry". This transposition of meanings indicates editorial alteration of the text during the Irrational Period. As H.O. Cuspocus, Professor of Tautology at the University of Bologna, states, "La Donna a mobile, qual piuma la Viants." In other words, "Iffa da water she's atta da bottom of da hill, she wanta da water atta da top." This, we submit, is a conclusive argument."

Great care must be exercised in interpreting the word "pail." Some authorities on entic history maintain that there is an allusion here to the twelth century Pale. This is borne out by the disastrous ending of the pericope (Jack fell down and broke his crown....." et seq). "Beyond the Pale.....chaos, " writes Sean O'Gobragh in the only part of his commentary which has thus far been translated from the Gaelic.

(So much for verse 1. We will take it from there in our next study article in next month's issue.)

(N.B. Of course, it is to be remembered, the the infallibility claimed for this passage does not apply to the text, but to the truth confained therein.)

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I'm going poo-less

by rebel8 in

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no, this is not my annual march colon cancer awareness thread!*.

a certain poo-less poster here has inspired me to stop using shampoo.. according to various hippie types, shampoo forces your scalp to produce extra oils and it takes a while to adjust.

sudsing detergents are bad for the environment too.. plus they have carcinogens and flying spaghetti monster knows i don't need any more of those.. so....have you gone poo-less?.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI1go72c5H8&feature=related

Making colonoscopies more fun.

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www.kevinquick.com

by Outaservice in

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someone in a previous thread mentioned they liked the site, www.kevinquick.com which deals with jw issues.. when i tried to bring it up, all kinds of bells and whistles went off with my internet security saying it was a very dangerous site to visit for virus'es, and problems.

so, i immediately logged out on it.

i have a lot of firewall's etc.

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Someone in a previous thread mentioned they liked the site, www.kevinquick.com which deals with JW issues.

When I tried to bring it up, all kinds of bells and whistles went off with my Internet Security saying it was a very dangerous site to visit for virus'es, and problems. So, I immediately logged out on it. I have a lot of firewall's etc. on my system but has anyone else had a similiar experience?

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Has anyone read The Shack by William Young?

by awildflower in

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my mother called today said i must, must, must go get this book and read it.

i see it every time i go to the book store but thought it had something to do with religion so i didn't want it.

i'm going to get it on friday and read it this weekend just wondered if anyone else had read it..

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In the Christian circles I've been around the book is not highly respected and certainly not based on any reality. Just a 'novel'.

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Dear Geico

by JeffT in

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that 15% i could save by switching to geico is a reward i pay your competition for not clogging my tv with all those inane ads.

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thank you.

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I'd never buy Geico! Your rates are based on your credit score! Another case of taking advantage of the poor and socking it to them. Unethical to say the least.

When a company gets too big, they can afford to lose you too, so do not treat customers very well. Give me the small time home insurance company.

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Open Letter (Reposted as a reminder to all)

by Outaservice in

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an open letter to jehovahs witnesses.

you may not remember, but i know you very well.

i met you a long time ago when you came to my house with your smiling faces, your neat clothes, and your soft voices and a bible tucked neatly under your arm.

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An Open Letter to Jehovah’s Witnesses

You may not remember, but I know you very well. I met you a long time ago when you came to my house with your smiling faces, your neat clothes, and your soft voices and a Bible tucked neatly under your arm. You told me many beautiful stories of a "paradise earth," and a "righteous new system" which would be established shortly. You beguiled me; I listened and I let you teach me your form of Christ-dignity.

I loved you, I devoted most of my life to you, I was loyal and obedient, never realizing that one day I would come to disagree with everything you had to say. When I first met you and learned of the "paradise," little did I know that in order to get to that paradise, I would have to walk over the dead bodies of beloved family, cherished friends, and casual acquaintances, because they didn't want to be Jehovah's Witnesses. With your soft, sweet voices, and gentle manner, you convinced me that everything and everyone who did not agree with you was "evil." I came to believe that other churches were bad and of the devil, and so were their members. I became convinced that all the governments were wicked, including my own, and that I was not to support the country in which I lived. I believed you; I loved you, trusted you, and served you and never suspected that you were capable of deceiving me.

I loved you so much that I raised my precious children as Jehovah's Witnesses. I taught them that you were trustworthy and true followers of God and Jesus. I trained them to believe your every word. How could I have known that in the future you would steal my own flesh and blood from my arms and prevent them from seeing me because I would come to disagree with you? I never noticed the fangs of oppression and tyranny that lurked behind those gentle smiles. I never knew that I would be expected to hand over my mind, soul, and spirit to you, and if I were to ever want them back, you would hold my children as hostages and no amount of begging and tears would release them from your grip because they had been raised to look at you as being God, rather than mere men.

When I came to you, I was young and pretty and impressionable, looking for a relationship with God, my Creator. But through slick words and empty speeches you convinced me that I was not really a child of God, that my duty was to the organization-that THEY would tell me what to do and how to think. Through years of domination and manipulation I began to accept the meager food that was being offered to me, and became willing to accept it as the true "spiritual" food from the Master, while all the time feeling the gnawing at my body. Finally, I discovered that I had been robbed of my joy, my love, my compassion, and my mercy, and it was replaced with legalistic doctrinal formula which provided me with fear, guilt, and anxiety to fill my hunger. When I said, "I want more than this," you slapped me with your soft little hand, which had now turned into an iron fist of oppression. Yes, you fooled me all along; your deception was because you had been fooled too, a long time ago, by others who had taken you captive to their dictatorial reign of terror. You convinced me that the words of men were the words of God because you really thought it was true. I believed you because you were gentle, soft spoken, and carried the Bible tucked under your arm.

You told me that you had "freedom" and it was only later, when I tried to escape your brand of "freedom" that I discovered that the iron bars of the gate had been shut and I was at your mercy because, by this time, you had already gained control of my mind and my emotions. I cried and begged you to please let me go, and you said, with your firm, roaring voice, "not until I have stripped you naked" and you did. You stripped me of my dignity, my self-respect, my honor, and my FAMILY! You told all my family and friends that I was demonic, evil, an apostate, a spiritual fornicator, and good for nothing but total destruction by your angry God whom you had tried to pass off as a God of "love." They believed you, and they still believe you, because their eyes are blinded by the promise of "paradise" and they cannot "see" the Hell that surrounds them. The ever illusive "paradise" is held out to the gullible like a carrot in front of the nose of a rabbit, and causes them to sacrifice their family, friends, careers, education, hopes and dreams on the altar of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

Now I'm older, now I'm wiser, but now it is too late- life is fast slipping away. Through my tears, I cry out for my beautiful daughter and grandchildren, but you grip them tighter and tighter and tell them that YOU will be their "mother." And so you are, and so you are! I begged to recapture my honor and my dignity, but you laughed with your bright, shining teeth, and said, "No way, you're on your own." Somehow those soft, pretty words weren't soft and pretty anymore, but words of slander, abuse, hatred, and hostility- and you said them in such a way that others would think that you were righteous and I was evil. You lied about me, but no one will believe you LIED because they trust you-that's because you are soft spoken, gentle, and carry a Bible tucked neatly under your arm.

Gaila Noble

Arizona

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Toyota Stuck Accelerator

by PEC in

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i just don't get it, why can't people shift into neutral, when this happens?

in the 1980's, i had a car accelerator stick a few times; before, i found out it was the floor mat, this was a very powerful car for it's day, about 240 hp.

i learned to pull the floor mat down every time i got in the car, no big deal.

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If you own a Toyota are you looking to get rid of it? What do you think will happen to the resale price of Toyota's? What kind of car do you think you would buy next? (realistically)?

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How much longer can WBTS survive before going out of business?

by african GB Member in

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with all the negativity surrounding the wbts and it's followers, can this organisation actually survive another 100 years.. .

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My guess would be 14 years, 7 days, 4 hours, and 27 minutes.

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