How about some trolls "Lord of the Rings" style?
TT
"i know ray franz and you are nothing like him.
" in integrity you are much smaller, in writing ability compared to him you fail miserably, in love for truth you do not compare.. bill bowen, you will never be as great a man as ray franz!
because you act before you think!
How about some trolls "Lord of the Rings" style?
TT
i don't know who it was that started this morbid pastime when i was a young jw, but eventually there were people in my "home" congregation that kept track of obituaries in the newspaper.
they would look at the person's age at the time of death and figure out whether they would have been part of "the generation" that was not supposed to pass away until the "composite sign" had seen its fulfillment.. it was especially disturbing when i noticed the calendars in the kitchen of one friend with dates marked with names of elderly celebrities and their age at the time of death, particularly if they were well-on in years and could have been present at the beginning of the "generation".
the claim was that they'd be able to have a collection of recognizable names and recent deaths to discuss with bible studies and householders to tie in the nearness of armageddon.. i'm sure this was just a manifestation of how much these people's lives lacked anything of substance - to be so focused on ("keeping close in mind"?
I always checked the new year count of the "anionted". Never understood how it got larger until I found out that some could have became "apostate" and had to be replaced...but that should have been replaced, not larger. Correct me if i'm wrong but "new light" first said anointed (this generation) would not pass away, than generation was changed from literal to a "time period" of people......now who the hell knows. It's stayed around 9k since I can remember. At least that's how I gaged it - only from anointed not actual people (brainwashing).
They change their doctrine because there will soon be none left "from that generation" and the "end" still isn't here. Than you have to consider that 1914 is wrong too because 607 is wrong.
Yea I always checked how many anointed were left so I could figure out when to quit leading a double life. 1k would have done it for me.
TT
this information is directed to those of you who are more knowledgable on this subject.
i received the following in an email today and wanted to see if anyone else heard of this information and if they believe it's valid.
>the us supported bin laden and the taliban for years,.
Yuri - set em straight
TT
well no response from my uncle yet in nc on the 30 some pages of news articles on child abuse, undisfellowshiped's 4 sceneros of what happens with child abuse in the borg, jw.org "former members are not shunned", and meriam websters definations of desenter and aopstate.
i sent it friday...maybe today...it's wednesday.
if anyone is interested - using my own research and others i have put together a really nice 40 page un scandal piece.
Tried again selecting them all and sending.....sigh. If not I'll find out from my younger bro tommorow how to do it.
hey gang, .
since the malawi/ mexico incident was one of the most shocking things we learned from coc and one of the things learned that opened our eyes...i was wondering..... are their any victims here or have there been?
can we find some?.
Not to seem like an a-hole but I highly doubt any people living in Malawi have computers. JWs pictured them as poor, underveloped, ect......
Welp off to surf and find out about Malawi so I can take my foot out of my mouth if necessary.
TT
well no response from my uncle yet in nc on the 30 some pages of news articles on child abuse, undisfellowshiped's 4 sceneros of what happens with child abuse in the borg, jw.org "former members are not shunned", and meriam websters definations of desenter and aopstate.
i sent it friday...maybe today...it's wednesday.
if anyone is interested - using my own research and others i have put together a really nice 40 page un scandal piece.
Let me know if you guys got it OK, please.
now that you know about the truth of the blood doctrine, would you feel, even a little bit uncomfortable agreeing to take a blood transfusion?
btw, my mother asked me if i would still honor her wishes for refusal of blood.
i told her that even though my view has changed, i would respect her decision, even if i felt that it was wrong.
I've been thinking of getting my own blood stored...that never really affected my concience even as a JW. I guess I have to research that issue more because I don't know the "truth" on why it's wrong besides killing innocent people.
I would only do so as a last resort though - Cleveland Clinic is only 20 minutes away from me (maybe some of you have heard of it - supposed to be one of the most advanced bloodless hospitals in the nation). Blood screening processes are a joke and HIV can stay dormant for near 10 years.
TT
got a copy of crisis of conscious 2nd ed.
on hold for me at a library.
will most likely be picking it up tommorrow after i get off from work.
I have the latest edition of CoC. The mexico issue and alternate service thing was pretty interesting to me. Malawi (bah crazy country names) chapters made me hate the GB. Spending all their time on DF issues and not caring what they were publishing was disgusting. Only half way through myself and have the latest copy of Christain Freedom sitting on the table right here next to me.
Enjoy - steal the damn thing if you have to
TT
well no response from my uncle yet in nc on the 30 some pages of news articles on child abuse, undisfellowshiped's 4 sceneros of what happens with child abuse in the borg, jw.org "former members are not shunned", and meriam websters definations of desenter and aopstate.
i sent it friday...maybe today...it's wednesday.
if anyone is interested - using my own research and others i have put together a really nice 40 page un scandal piece.
Well no response from my uncle yet in NC on the 30 some pages of news articles on child abuse, UnDisfellowshiped's 4 sceneros of what happens with child abuse in the borg, JW.org "former members are not shunned", and meriam websters definations of desenter and aopstate. I sent it Friday...maybe today...It's Wednesday.
If anyone is interested - using my own research and others I have put together a really nice 40 page UN scandal piece. Only a few of the pages (5) are scanned letters posted on the net.....the rest are from official web sites. I saved all the URLs in one folder so if anyone is interested e-mail me and I'll send you the folder with all the links. It's a hybred combination of the slide show on "Watchers of the Watchtower" but contains no actual written contentent thus lessining the chance of denying it...though they will anyway....but what the hell.....I'm giving it a shot.
TT
Hmmm thinking of sending this to the rest of the fam first than regular mail to my uncle after the others get it so he doesn't warn them of my EVIL intentions
Ohh it's not like, "here's 40 pages print it out and send it"...it's more links and stuff to point you in the right direction to prepare your own argument. You'll actually learn more that way as I did, you just don't have to hassle finding the links.
Edited by - TTBoy on 9 October 2002 8:44:55
Edited by - TTBoy on 9 October 2002 10:0:26
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"youth died of rare infection, doctors say".
http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=650
Very sad but I am amazed he is portraid as a football and track star being on of Jehovah's Witnesses.
TT