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  Superficial People

  by BugEye in

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  superficial people are a little like goldfish.. they have a 3 second memory.. once they have eaten their fill, they go looking for more.. they are generally a little stupid.. they have a 3 second memory.

  life consists of looking around for the same thing all the time.. they are unaware of anything outside of their tank.. the world really does revolve around them.. they have a 3 second memory.. if you try to hold them, you will find them to be slippery little suckers.. you can have some fun with them for a while, watching them is fascinating.. they take work and effort to keep.. they often look attractive, but dont have anything inside.. they have a 3 second memory.. .

  bugeye

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  (((((Bugsy!))))))

  Nice to see you (and LadyBug) back.

  outnfree

  Par dessus toutes choses, soyez bons. La bonte est ce qui ressemble le plus a Dieu et ce qui desarme le plus les hommes -- Lacordaire
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  WHAT ON EARTH???? and random thoughts

  by VeniceIT in

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  i guess i can't leave you people alone for 4 weeks eh???

  all hell broke lose!!!!.

  i have no idea what is going on, apparenlty some are leaving for h2o and i don't have time to read all the threads.

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  P.S. LOL@Englishman

  P.P.S. So THAT's what was happening at Bethel last week! -- The GB announced "No more Monday Night Football" and it took four hours to get the resulting riot under control!
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  WHAT ON EARTH???? and random thoughts

  by VeniceIT in

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  i guess i can't leave you people alone for 4 weeks eh???

  all hell broke lose!!!!.

  i have no idea what is going on, apparenlty some are leaving for h2o and i don't have time to read all the threads.

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  Welcome Back, Venice!

  Don't fret too much about the flame wars -- suffice it to say that there is now a new forum "Adult & Arguments". This is the place where threads which contain adult language or themes and/or flame wars are now to be taken. (It will make them much easier to avoid! )

  I'm not sure who all is leaving [for good], but it IS good to take a break now and then -- especially when others here are unwilling to 'give one a break!'

  Hugs,

  outnfree
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  Can I share a great experience with you all?

  by jonjonsimons in

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  just wanted to pass along a recent experience that has helped open my eyes about many things.

  i wasn't going to share this with the db but with all of the crap going on around here lately i thought it might be nice to post something that i found to be uplifting.

  a few of you that i exchange emails with already know that my leukemia came out of remission recently.

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  Dear JonJon,

  I read the title of your thread and said, "Yes. PLEASE do..."
  and now I find it's actually a bittersweet experience, but YOUR ATTITUDE is what's great!

  Also the change in your sister's attitude!

  JonJon, that positive attitude will go a long way towards helping you through the awful ordeal chemotherapy is, and I hope that you'll be able to maintain it through the necessary treatments ahead.

  Thanks for the uplifting post, and to echo my girlfriend, Tina, "I'm sending thoughts of strength and love your way," JJ.

  outnfree

  Par dessus toutes choses, soyez bons. La bonte est ce qui ressemble le plus a Dieu et ce qui desarme le plus les hommes -- Lacordaire
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  TY for Welcome, some Questions?????

  by Cassiline in

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  thank you all for the warm welcome!

  it has been so hard living, believeing that i am an anomaly.

  i realize that there are others out there who have lived and expierenced what i have.

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  Welcome to the Board, Casseline!
  

  I urge you to pick up Ray Franz' book and read it. Read it very carefully and very slowly (Many here are living proof that God will NOT strike you dead if you are so bold! LOL).

  You will find it to be nothing like what the Witnesses tell you to expect from 'apostate' literature. Ray Franz is a humble, decent man who could no longer stand to be involved in the hypocrisy that he sadly found at the highest levels of the WTBTS. Yet, the book is VERY balanced, NOT bitter, NOT 'cleverly worded so as to mislead' but rather refreshingly frank and honest.

  If you just screw up the courage to read the preface, I'm sure you'll feel much more comfortable about starting in.

  The REAL problems will start after you learn what he shares. You will have risked ... but you will finally be free to share and heal and grow. Difficult, but necessary.

  outnfree

  Par dessus toutes choses, soyez bons. La bonte est ce qui ressemble le plus a Dieu et ce qui desarme le plus les hommes -- Lacordaire
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  Post WTBTS Life

  by Angst in

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  i have been inactive for about three and a half years now and just recently after making some big changes in my life have i made a commitment not to return to the "organization".

  for quite awhile now i've just felt like i was apathetic towards religion.

  now i'm disgusted by religion, religious dogma, and fanaticism.. one thing that i've noticed in those i deal with that are ex-witnesses is that many tend to swing the exact opposite direction once they leave.

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  Hi, Angst (great name, btw -- I read your other thread),

  I left the Witnesses in March of this year. So far the only thing I have done that I would NOT have done as a witness was to swear, rent some R-rated movies (actually, I used to do that when I was a witness, but very, very selectively) that I had always wanted to see, celebrate holidays and associate with the apostates on this board!!!! LOL
  (I never thought the WT belonged in my bedroom -- especially as I became a witness AFTER 11 years of marriage.)

  Am I now a horrible person? I don't think so. My husband is/was an unbeliever, so the kids always had Christmas (and Easter candy) as well as dinner at the restaurant of their choice for their birthdays and gifts for which he shopped. So the only change on that score, is that I, too, shopped, and I don't sit around with a sour expression on my face any longer.

  I don't think there are many ex-JWs that IMMEDIATELY turn to what JW's would term an 'immoral lifestyle', but then, I'm older and perhaps you're right about the 20-somethings... I think, rather, that ALL ex-JWs go through a self-examination period and begin shedding restrictions that never made sense to them in the first place (many are unscriptural anyway) and then pick and choose what seems right to them. Something like what you described when you said:

  I don't feel a need to follow the world or the Witnesses. I'm striving to maintain a unique individuality.

  Maintaining "a unique individuality" is precisely what one was NOT supposed to do as a witness. "Unity" meant "cookie-cutter dub" more often than not.

  Welcome to the world of freedom. Not just freedom FROM the Borg, but freedom TO become ... whoever you are, Angst.

  I look forward to reading more of your posts.

  outnfree

  Par dessus toutes choses, soyez bons. La bonte est ce qui ressemble le plus a Dieu et ce qui desarme le plus les hommes -- Lacordaire
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  Jesus' illustration of the Wheat & Weeds Ma...

  by wokeup in

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  this question is addressed to those who still esteem and value gods' word.

  those of us who were raised in the "trooth" we were taught that the "sons of the kingdom" pertained only to the "faithful slave".

  in jesus' illustration of the end time harvest period, the angels separate the wheat from the weeds , distinguishing two distinct parties.

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  normie67,

  There are those [most of Christendom] who would argue that John 10:16's 'other sheep' are Gentiles. Remember, Jesus did not preach to the nations, that was something he told his disciples they were to do, but who would draw them? The Fine Shepherd. Afterhis glorification in heaven.

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  British branch letter 9/1/2000 now found

  by Dogpatch in

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  another secret letter from the branch office in britian dated september 1, 2000 regarding the data protection act.

  bookmark this site, as more info will appear shortly here!.

  http://thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/

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  Randy,

  Thanks again!

  outnfree

  Par dessus toutes choses, soyez bons. La bonte est ce qui ressemble le plus a Dieu et ce qui desarme le plus les hommes -- Lacordaire
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  BOE letter Britain Dec. 1, 2000

  by Dogpatch in

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  http://thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/.

  watch tower.

  bible and tract society of britain.

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  Thanks, Randy.

  For some reason I was having trouble finding the "rest of the story" -- from somewhere on page 2 onward.

  Now I can complete a side-by-side comparison I wanted to do with the U.S. BOE letter which "parallels" it.

  And thanks to your sources, too.

  outnfree

  Par dessus toutes choses, soyez bons. La bonte est ce qui ressemble le plus a Dieu et ce qui desarme le plus les hommes -- Lacordaire
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  Another nasty misquotation

  by RunningMan in

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  on tuesday, my wife had a talk in the ministry school.

  the reasoning book and was on the subject of evolution.. one of her arguments contained a quote from carl sagan that seemed to.

  support creation.

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  Thanks, RunningMan, for the research.

  I'm sending your post to a friend of mine, trying to break down the walls of blind belief.

  outnfree