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  A couple of ??'s

  by JG in

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  since my wife has been attending meetings recently, and i have been going with her i have noticed a change.. i mentioned i thought it was weird that after the sun talk and before watchtower study they would announce the number of people who had attended and invite them to stay for the wt study.

  since i mentioned this to an elder it has stopped.

  i have never heard it again.

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  Tzu

  Jack mormons sometimes smoke drink don't wear the funny underwear etc. but still are LDS.

  Um ....... funny underwear?? Is that a joke or do they really have *funny* underwear LOL?
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  JGnat Says Hi

  by jgnat in

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  i have been wandering around the board for a while now, and have decided it is time to contribute a bit of my history.

  i have described my involvement with the witnesses as being from the outside looking in.

  my sweet honey has been trying for two years to get reinstated.

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  Tzu

  Looking forward to the rest of your story too.
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  Okay here goes....My Story. Long but true.

  by Lin in

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  please bear with me through this, this could likely become lengthy.

  i feel it's time for me to give you my story as a dub.

  i was born and raised in an extremely "hardcore", strict witness home.

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  Tzu

  Thanks for the opportunity to read your story Lin. You are a brave lady and I wish you lots of happiness now for the future. How wonderful we have the Internet these days. People can come onto a site like this and read the *truth* for themselves and make a decision about where they want to be. I'm sure this site is giving many who are still trapped and confused, the opportunity to read the facts and get out of that organisation. I hope so anyway. All the best.
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  My short time WITH and AS a JW

  by pincushion in

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  my name is 'pincushion', i reside in alberta.

  in 1989 i started studying with the jw's.

  i was really drawn to the 'truth' and after much trial and tribulation i was baptised in 1991 during a lethbridge assembly.

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  Tzu

  I LOVED the restraining order bit!! Well done pin.
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  I need help with a dub who is leaving

  by Nowhere in

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  i have a problem..... ok, i'm almost finished... but... what now?

  how can that person begin to live a normal life, and don't feel so guilty all the time?

  what's the next step.

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  Tzu

  I have a problem....

  Ok, I'm almost finished... but... what now? How can that person begin to live a normal life, and don't feel so guilty all the time? What's the next step. The ones who I have talked to, says that this will continue for ten years maybe all of this persons life??!!!?? Help me out here, whats next? I've tried the Bible, but this person doesn't see any meaning with the bible now. I'm worried. I care a lot for this person, but I'm beginning to think that this person would have had a better life just living in the big lie and never been confronted with the real TRUTH. Should I encourage the person to get back in the witness community?

  No one has a *life* in the WT. They simply exist. Your friend just needs time to adjust to the new found freedom, it's wonderful! Some people sail out and never look back, others need to do a bit of de-programming, good books to read have been mentioned on this thread. I needed to de-programme myself and read and read and read ...... anti witness literature! One I found useful was called *Answering Jehovah's Witnesses, Verse by Verse*. There is plenty of literature. When read with an open mind, it doesn't take a person long to see they made the right decision to leave the WT. Your friend may not look for another religion again, or for a while and that's ok. The most important thing initially is to get the WT teachings out of the head. Because it is brainwashing without a doubt, even the way they call it the *truth*, that is such auto suggestion for a start. My first thing I did, was to make a concious effort to stop calling it the truth and start calling it the lie! I can see with people who come out and do not de-programme themselves, though they get on with their lives, they still have WT teachings firmly stuck in their heads and tend to think this way when reasoning on anything to do with religion etc. They actually don't even realise they are talking this way either because they have not replaced the teachings with other teachings or simply removed them altogether from their heads. But your friend will be fine, remember Rome was not built in a day. The longer a person was in the WT, the longer it may take to adjust when coming out. But I reckon it is far easier to adjust to coming out than to going into the org. I would say the biggest problem is leaving behind friends and especially relatives who may be encouraged to shun. But even with this, people have stayed strong and never given up hope of recuing those left behind that they love. All those I know who have come out, have absolutely no regrets and make it their aim to rescue their friends and relatives.
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  What is God doing?

  by Kagloo in

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  this is a genuine question... i mean no disrespect to anyone...especially to my heavenly father....but i have this gnawing question in my head that just wont go away...... okay... with that out of the way.... let's take the holly and jessica story that hit the headlines in the uk recently...two innocent kids, murdered and left to decompose in a filthy mud trench....;or worse than that, the story about the two people in the usa who have been busted for running an internet child porn site that features pix of children...babies as young as five months... five months!!!!!!

  !.....being sexually abused..... if i start to think about what these poor kids went through it drives me mad!

  and then if i start to think about what some kids are still going through even as i write..... welli can hardly bear it!.

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  Neither are we the good, deserving people we think we are. Not a single one of us deserves to be rescued;

  But what about a little baby? Doesn't it deserve to be recued when it is being brutally raped? In SA this happened recently to a young baby (between 3 and 9 months old), it was so damaged, it had to have it's bowel removed. I can't accept that God doesn't intervene in a situation like that, regardless of what the plan is for mankind. Adults may not be the deserving people they think they are, but a young baby has not sinned and is innocent. I wish I could get over this type of thinking as it interferes in my relationship with God. I want to believe in Him and to worship Him, yet the suffering of the innocent, especially animals, gets to me so much, and I immediately feel angry with God. I don't think we are supposed to be angry with God (sigh).
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  What is God doing?

  by Kagloo in

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  this is a genuine question... i mean no disrespect to anyone...especially to my heavenly father....but i have this gnawing question in my head that just wont go away...... okay... with that out of the way.... let's take the holly and jessica story that hit the headlines in the uk recently...two innocent kids, murdered and left to decompose in a filthy mud trench....;or worse than that, the story about the two people in the usa who have been busted for running an internet child porn site that features pix of children...babies as young as five months... five months!!!!!!

  !.....being sexually abused..... if i start to think about what these poor kids went through it drives me mad!

  and then if i start to think about what some kids are still going through even as i write..... welli can hardly bear it!.

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  Tzu

  Hi Kagloo,

  I don't have the answer, but would certainly like to hear some views, as I also question this.
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  Replying to post?

  by Tzu in

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  hi there,.

  i wonder if someone could tell me how to quote someones posting when replying to it?

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  Tzu

  Hilight text, right click, choose copy. Go to post box where you post and at the top beside the on the right click quote icon and paste your quote in the shadded box. It worked for me.

  Ken P.

  Thanks very much.
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  Awake magazine left in my door

  by mrs rocky2 in

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  i found an awake!

  magazine tucked in my door when i came home from work last night.

  i guess weve been away from the kh long enough for only a handful of them to know where we live.

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  Tzu

  Hi Mrs R,

  Sorry about the error, I sit up too late at night on the computer, I guess not concentrating.

  I agree with you, work on their minds to set them free. The gun and dogs was just a joke lol.

  I have been out 4 years and feel no anger anymore. Initially my anger was towards the hierachy that run the org, not towards the members who were sucked in just like me.
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  Replying to post?

  by Tzu in

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  hi there,.

  i wonder if someone could tell me how to quote someones posting when replying to it?

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  Tzu

  Hi there,

  I wonder if someone could tell me how to quote someones posting when replying to it? Thanks.