G'day Munka!
Welcome aboard, how's things over the pond?
I always refer people to the Freeminds site: http://www.freeminds.org/
A good place to start.
Cheers, Ozzie
ozziepost
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help with my question please
by MUNKAFATS inim only an interested one at the moment but as i surf around the net i keep seeing sites talking about false prophesies from the witnesses (dooms day etc) id like an unbiased opinion as to where i can get more info as the witnesses here in new zealand tell me they have never heard of them, thanks?
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Australian Publisher Statistics analysed -
by jwfacts ini have just posted some graphs on australian publishers at http://jehovah.net.au/aust_statistics.html over the last 30 years.
there is a huge change in growth (or should i use the term shrinkage) over the last 10 years.
enjoy.. .
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ozziepost
G'day mate! Keeping busy I see.
The stats make an interesting read - always better to see the facts visually, I reckon, like in graph form.
Even when I was 'in', I used to play around with the numbers but I was always uncomfortable with the interpretation of what the baptisms figure meant in terms of increase. We remember that people baptised have already been publishers for some time and the chilrden of witness families even longer, so the baptisms are not something to be added in a static environment, if you get what I mean, more of a rolling addition. I suppose over a long period, as you have done, it would be valid - certainly what we do see is that despite all that effort on the part of the WTS and the brouhaha about baptisms meaning growth, the "bottom line" is that there hasn't been growth.
Oh, also we have to factor in deaths and DF to that figure.
Anyway, hope things are well with you - must catch up some time again.
Cheers, Ozzie
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ex-JW's in Melbourne?
by Run,dont walk! inhi everyone, i just joined this forum, am starting to go through the stories & info & hoping this will be a good support channel (i have heaps to discuss& vent lol).
i don't have the energy to go through my life story (yet!
), but basically i've left the organisation, which was a gradual yet sudden process.
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ozziepost
G'day Kimberley,
Welcome aboard - enjoy your stay here.
Just look at the left and you'll see where I am!
There are many ex-dubs from Sydney who have posted on JWD - they come and go, but always part of 'the family'.
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Today makes 6 years on JWD for me!
by Alana in.
i may not post as much as some of you all, but i do read it all and you all have been a great support in my journey out of this cult.
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ozziepost
Happy, Happy Birthday, Alana!
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The Watchtower Society's "Spiritual Paradise"
by Honesty inthere are 729 references to the "spiritual paradise" on the 2006 watchtower library on cd.. .
when you were one of jehovah's witness what was it like to live in this "spiritual paradise"?.
we would enjoy hearing about your daily walk with god the faithful slave (genesis 5:22,24; genesis 6:9) and how refreshed you felt at the end of each glorious day in paradise..
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In retrospect, I can't believe I didn't question this nonsense when I was an active Witness. Spiritual paradise? What on Earth gives the GB the idea that there is any scriptural support for the notion that "God's people" live in a spiritual paradise. What a bunch of horsesh*t!
I fell into the trap of false logic. They convinced me that I could use a process of elimination to determine that JWs were the one true religion. JW don't go to war. All other religions condone war (not true, by the way). Therefore, JW are the true religion. They played the same game by comparing their stance on the Trinity, hellfire, immortal soul, etc. What I never stopped to realize is that, by using other criteria, I could eliminate the JW religion from being the one true religion as well. False predictions, never-ending doctrinal flip flops, changing policies and doctrines to gain favor from the world's governments and avoid potential lawsuits, the Pharisaic written and unwritten rule book governing virtually every aspect of a person's life that the Bible sets no rules for, the prohibition on reading anything critical of the religion, all of these criteria and more eliminate the JWs from being the one true religion as they claim to be. They're willing to apply that test to "Christendom," but not to themselves. Hypocrites!
Oh, how I agree! In fact I had an example of this 'false logic' just the other day. It was my very elderly mother's birthday and her wedding anniversary. (Mum is a devout JW for the past almost 60 years.) Since Dad died in recent years, I knew she'd be feeling particularly sad, so I rang her, despite knowing I'd probably be abused once again for being a follower of Satan! Anyway, she didn't hang up on me as she's supposed to (I wonder why??) but proceeded to tell me how I needed to "come back to Jehovah" (did I ever leave him?) before it's too late, that the Anglican Church is clearly (to her) part of false religion and since I'm Anglican (huh? Am I? I thought I was a christian who attends an Anglican Church), then I should come back to the dubs. She went on to tell me examples of wrongs by people of the Anglican church and so the Anglcan Church (as an organisation) clearly was part of "Satan's organisation™". I stopped her momentum when I replied that the same logic could be applied to the Watch Tower organisation and that in my view she was part of Satan's organisation and needed to come out of it!! Asking her her thoughts on the new changed doctrine about the calling of the 144,000 drew a blank - she'd no knowledge of it! I suspect that many dubs are oblivious to the significance of what is being taught them.
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Thanks JWD: I am losing money from this site
by mtsgrad in.
what impact has this site had on you, good, bad or plain old ugly?.
mtsgrad.
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hey mts!
don't ya know that only minimus can ask those questions!!!
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To "Youllneverknow" - my secret admirer... are you listening?
by AK - Jeff inby now you realise that your account has been deactivated.
i'm a bit sad in a way, since i know you are no threat to me.
still, out here in the 'real life', we have rules regarding civil conduct that even jehovah's witnesses must abide by to keep their 'privilages' here.
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ozziepost
Jeff:
I think I must add this postscript.
To: YoullNeverKnow:
Should you be thinking of opening another account in order to engage Jeff, I must caution you that such registration will be barred for it violates Posting Guidelines to have more than one account.
If this unhappy matter is cleared up satisfactorily with Jeff, in the manner he suggests, then your posting 'privileges' may be reinstated.
If there is something I've misunderstood, please email me at: [email protected]
Thanks.
Ozzie
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What are your favorite countries?
by 5go inmine are switzerland, germany, japan, sweden, and china.
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- AUSTRALIA
- VIET NAM
- NORWAY
- NETHERLANDS
- AUSTRALIA
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My secret admirer......
by AK - Jeff inhttp://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/135521/1.ashx.
the poster must be a local, but not very familiar with the spelling of local names.
i prob revealed all the 'clues' he/she has alluded to here on jwd.
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ozziepost
G'day Jeff:
I'm concerned. The poster in question has certainly violated Posting Guidelines for this site e.g. "Invading privacy" and making personal attack.
I'm sending you a PM with follow up info.
For now, I've disabled the poster's account.
Kind regards,
Ozzie
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Kansas City DC summary
by stillajwexelder inok just got back from the dc in kansas city.
i know there has been a thread on the dc already but i will post "highlights" or lowlights depending on one's opinion, of the dc in kc on this thread.. 1) bethel speakers so far 1 from patterson bethel, 1 from brooklyn bethel and 1 from walkill bethel + governing body speaker anthony morris 111. friday major talk on christ on last talk by morris.
illustarted earthquake in armenia few yaers ago.
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Also said many attending DC here are not necessarily following Christ.
Well, we know one for sure! Someone who's put himself in the place of Christ is no follower!