they are moving most of it to Patterson. Probably cheaper location and that Brooklyn Heights property is very valuable.
Yet the fuel costs would be higher. Ironic, isn't it?
an old pioneer friend told me recently that the bethel is moving from brooklyn.
she learned this at pioneer school from the cos who taught the school.
also they warned of many changes to come.
they are moving most of it to Patterson. Probably cheaper location and that Brooklyn Heights property is very valuable.
Yet the fuel costs would be higher. Ironic, isn't it?
i was wondering what your impressions are of the recent convo i had with a jw elder who thought he would call up his old "apostate" buddy and try to sell him some software.
i agreed to the meeting thinking this would be great.
my own mother won't talk to me but this guy feels this "business" would allow him to fraternise.. he quickly gets on the jw topic by mentioning a recent funeral of a mutual acquaintance in the "tooth" and why i wasn't there.
I'm an example of someone who told the elders of personal wrongdoing that normally would lead to a JC meeting. The two elders I talked to decided on the spot that since I was obviously repentant and came to them, then it wasn't necessary to form a JC and the matter was dropped to never be brought up again. I never really figured out how I got out of that one. I was fully expecting to be removed as an MS, to be publicy reproved (at the least privately reproved) and to suffer some shame amongst my family.
I can recall an instance where I partook in such action. It was exactly as you describe and the P.O. and i met with the man who had confessed. The P.O. at the time was a bethel colleague from Service Department and we agreed that it would be pointless taking it to a JC for it had happened some years prior and that the man was clearly repentant in making known something which was unlikely to have otherwise been made known.
I suspect it happens more than we imagine - there are (a few) right-minded individuals serving as elders.
BTW undercover, you're not downunder are you?
just in case you slept in this morning and didn't get to the kh, here's an mp3 of the letter being read.... .
no more bookstudies (2007427_announcement.mp3): http://www.divshare.com/download/4361643-f65.
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G'day Spy,
Well done! It was just like being there!
Welcome aboard!
weird.
after the letter was read, many clapped.
i don't know how to interpret that.. .
After the letter was read, many clapped
LOL !
You always cheer my day, meta!
just got back from the assembly the bookstudy will be part of the ministry school service metting as of 2009. the cost of fuel is 1 reason.
to many elders taking bookstudys time could be better spent on other things.
family heads can now spend more time with there familys.
To many elders taking bookstudys time could be better spent on other things.
Didn't Jesus say, "Feed my sheep" ?
because one of the jw invitees heard i was coming and was now part of babylon the great.
just to clarify - i am part of nothing in the religious sense- my kids and husband are very catholic but i am not.. i was invited and trying to get the address after making considerable efforts to attend due to plain old busy life.. it seems "new light" says i, a fader of over 20 years is not welcome to a gathering where jws are present.
but - not just jws - there would be many other religious denominations present in the form of aunts, grandmothers, parents etc.
you will notice that in both these km articles they say the cbs is "a loving arrangement from jehovah".
if that is the case it begs the question: .
what right have they to stop it?
Could the letter's coming directly from the GB imply that Ted was against this change and is being slapped in the ego by the new boys in the regime?
Intriguing.....an interesting point.
you will notice that in both these km articles they say the cbs is "a loving arrangement from jehovah".
if that is the case it begs the question: .
what right have they to stop it?
Meetings in private homes could well be the oldest and most widely attended of Christian gatherings.In apostolic times groups of Christians met in private homes to discuss God’s Word.
A moot point.
this site has a copy of the letter.
it's in spanish.
http://www.extj.com/foro/view_topic.php?id=3679&forum_id=1
In the meantime, I would put this on the same level as, say, changing the District Convention from 8-9 days to only 3-4.
I'd say it was more significant than that.
In the example you give, the conventions weren't changed, they were simply shorter; just as if they had been increased to say 10 days, it wouldn't have changed them.
However, with this the current change, a whole meeting is being removed. Yes, "they" can say that it's having its location changed but we all know that's just window dressing. No, the group study is being dispensed with, as the "Society's"™ own letter apparently states, so as "not to burden the brothers" in these difficult times.
I consuly my theological library or a local theological library for that extra spice or nutrient
Ever considered that it might be good to enjoy a whole meal there instead of 'nutrient'?