greenhornet
I thought we were to receive life's water free
The Jesus they claim to be their “Great Teacher” turned no-one away. Makes ya think, eh?
do you have to be invited?
is there any way of listening in on the kh meeting?
it's been about 30 years since i have been to a kh and they would have a conference call of 4 people on the phone together because they were sick.
greenhornet
I thought we were to receive life's water free
The Jesus they claim to be their “Great Teacher” turned no-one away. Makes ya think, eh?
https://youtu.be/n_fttvylm-m?si=l44406ohysubkajr.
so today we are considering, the watchtower's new take on the "hailstone message", and if you don't know what that is , they used to believe that according to revelation 16:21 they would be preaching a hard hitting message during the time of the end.
now, let's read the verse first from the new world translation: "then great hailstones, each about the weight of a talent, fell from heaven on the people, and the people blasphemed god because of the plague of hail, for the plague was unusually great" now this is their new understanding as it appears from the 3rd paragraph from their new watchtower study edition for august 2025 and their article:when will the preaching work end, has this to say: "our clarified understanding of matthew 24:14 also adjusts our understanding of the hailstonelike message foretold at revelation 16:21. further examination has revealed that the two scriptures complement each other.
"Our clarified understanding of Matthew 24:14 also adjusts our understanding of the hailstonelike message foretold at Revelation 16:21. Further examination has revealed that the two scriptures complement each other.
So how was this “clarified understanding” obtained? In a dream?
These are two isolated texts from the New Testament. How hard is it to read them? Yet, the mind controllers need clarified understanding? Phew-y ! They seek absolute control by limiting accurate knowledge. It’s a cult.
hour quotas timeline.
back in the old days long before 1952.
“after staying in our ‘home’ for two days we decided that if we were going to meet our quota of 140 hours for the month.
Now, I very rarely, if ever see any local witnesses near me on the ministry, or even setting up any jw carts any more!
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
if she did go back into the truth
Oh dear, old habits die hard, eh?
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
WC
Even us losers and criminals have standards!
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can i call you friends, i think so after 23 years posting here.
i am dismayed how jwn is being "dominated" or taken over by a few posters, peppering the comments.
in the past, the admin did not approve of this and did remove some posters from jwn.
G’day all but especially youse old-timers,
Just wanted to say that it’s reassuring to see you (esp Blondie) ‘keeping the faith’.
I was absent for a while during the prolonged sickness and eventual death of my dear Mrs Ozzie. I called in to JWN and here we have some familiar faces/names.
And thx for our facilitator Simon.
This place has given so much to so many over many years.
Without the vigilance of people like you who have commented already, the culture would be allowed to change, but happily forces are at work to stop that.
Luvs ya all!
Cheers,
Ozzie 🍷🍷
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Excepting he wasn’t in Bethel.
just a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.
cheers,.
ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).
It being a cold, windy winter’s day, I’ve turned my mind to the re-vamped August Tower.
i’ve not changed my views on their erroneous teaching in Study 33 about 1st and 2nd letters to the Corinthians but through the five articles I can see their efforts to sanitise their extra-judicial policies, notwithstanding that the evil apostates are grouped together with pedophiles for special attention or should that be special everlasting removal?
Anyway, I’m curious that there’s no discussion or even mention of ‘restrictions’. They don’t describe anything extra to an announcement of reproof or when someone is re-instated (do they still use that word?).
I’m curious, if they quietly abandoned restrictions, that would be a watering-down of their judicial processes. Restrictions as they practice it flies in the face of the thrust of the articles in their hi-lighting of forgiveness. The use of restrictions was always used as a tool to ‘qualify’ their offering forgiveness.
just a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.
cheers,.
ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).
just a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.
cheers,.
ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).
OK as I anticipated the Borgmeisters, using a gross error of Bible scholarship, have sought to portray their treatment of “removed ones” as being “Bible based”.
Bible scholars agree that of all the letters that the apostle Paul wrote to the church in Corinth, just two remain and we know them as 1 Corinthians and 2 Corinthians.
We know there was definitely one written after 1 Corinthians that we do not have. It’s referred to at 2 Corinthians 2:3,4 and was written from Ephesus but unfortunately it has not survived.
From this knowledge we have no basis for claiming (as the Watchtower does) that the man referred to at 2 Corinthians 2:5-11 was the guy whose conduct Paul addressed in 1 Corinthians.
The Watchtower has long claimed, and wrongly, the opposite. So much for being Bible teachers and “true christians”!
So when the gullible read the Study 33 article, they may be drawn into a land completely alien to what was the reality of the time. Drawing false parallels and overlain with a twenty-first century Jehovah’s Witness culture and terminology, paragraph 8 is based on a false premise and paragraph 9 is pure conjecture.
ozzie