Posts by pamkw

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Older ones here, what do you remember being told about 1975 ???

by run dont walk in

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i was just a little kid when the 1975 thing came about, didn't pay much attention to it, after it was over, my parents told me it was just some people being over anxious, and being about 8 at the time i believed it, now when you research you find some amazing articles.

what do you remember being told about 1975 as the year got closer ?

pamkw

I was 13 in 1975. I was forced to be baptized. An elder convinced my mom that me and my sister who was 16 would die if we were not dunked. He said we were too old to go through on my mom's account. She was scared to death. I was scared of the elder that I had to do the questions with. An mean old man. I remember not having any idea what I was doing. This same elder even convinced my step father (the child molester) to get baptized that same year. Many years later the elders met with my sisters and my mother and me to talk about what was happening in family at that time. It was decided not to df this man for molesting me and my older sister, but to just void his baptism and say he never should have been a jw. Pissed me off, I was df at 19 for having sex, but he was not for hurting me. If they had to df him, maybe my mom would have divorced him years ago. 1975 was all too real.

Pam

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-9-03 WT Study

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 11-09-03 wt study

review comments will be in black and parentheses ().

wt quotes will be in

pamkw

My mom should enjoy this article, if she even goes this week. She has been in a bad abusive marriage for 35 years. Why does she stay because God wants her too. She is doing the right thing, and standing by (gag) right principles. She says it doesn't matter if she is treated badly, she does not have to be happy, because she will be when the end comes. Nothing is important except the end coming. She will read this article and feel that she is justified and that her marriage is her tribulation for 'the truth'.

It makes me sick.

Pam

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Are You Ashamed Of The Way That You Disciplined Your Child?

by minimus in

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most articles in the publications recommended physical punishment, (corporal) when disciplining children.

the scripture says that "he will not die" if you beat him.

so many parents literally beat their children.

pamkw

Yes!

I have told my oldest son how sorry I am for some of the things I did and said. It bothers me more than it does him. I still tend to yell alot, but I do not spank my 11 year old very often. I have learned more patience with him. If I was still a jw, his life and mine would be pure hell. The kh has no place for a child with mental illness. It's funny my mom sometimes tries to take him to the kh when he stays all night with her. She always leaves in the middle of the meeting. She does not do that very much any more.

Pam

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Happy Halloween, Folks!

by Farkel in

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this was my project for last year, and it took much of the year to learn and play it, but it is "halloween appropriate.

" it is the danse macabre and was orginally written for orchestra only.

franz liszt did the piano reduction, and it is nearly impossible to play.

pamkw

Awesome. I envy any one can play an instrument. I was never allowed to because I might have to play the national anthem or holiday stuff. Some day I will learn to play something. Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed it bunches.

Pam

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What was the purpose of Creation?

by ClassAvenger in

i was talking to some jehovah witness in a bible study, and we got into a conversation of heaven.

i told him that we would all be in heaven and live there, and he told me, "what would be the point of god creating the whole earth and putting us here then destroying it?

wouldn't it just be easier to repair the earth and place us here again?

pamkw

I guess I don't understand. what does heaven have to do with God destroying the earth?

Pam

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Ex-JW Singles - Post Your Info Here!

by pettygrudger in

lots of love connections have been made on this board, and its about time we made a few more!

its been almost a year since there was a thread on this, and i figure its about time for an update.. so, are you single?

if so, post a little about yourself here - perhaps there's a love connection right here on this board!.

pamkw

I am single and would love to find someone. But it will have to wait until my son grows up. I don't have to time to give to a relationship. If one came my way, I would give it a good try.

Pam

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update on court

by pamkw in

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the court thing was very interesting.

the judge remembered my son from before.

the first time he was in court the judge found him not guilty.

pamkw

Yes, he has been fully diganosed with ADHD and bipolar. The school knows there is a problem, and they are kissing butt big time. I am not backing down and I have the law on my side. I wish I had the money to get a lawyer. I do have places I can call if I don't get what I need. I am just getting sick of the whole thing. Because it really comes down to the classroom teacher. Will that person follow the IEP's and all the modifications. This year the teacher has not. And he is no longer in her class. I can get them into alot of trouble for not complying with federal laws and actually doing what his IEP says. My main gripe now is the district is taking it's dear sweet time to get anything done. But at least he is getting some schooling as a teacher comes Monday -Friday for two hours a day and does work with him. they think they can wear me down, and I will do what they want. Fat Chance. Pam

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update on court

by pamkw in

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the court thing was very interesting.

the judge remembered my son from before.

the first time he was in court the judge found him not guilty.

pamkw

Two years ago in the spring, he was in a special classroom at the mental health center, and he got upset about something, and threw a chair and dented a plastic bookcase. Four people decided to try to hold him down, and he head butted a couple of them trying to get away. Holding him down made it worse, so they called the police. At the time I was told it was no big deal, they just wanted to scare him. I don't know where these so called 'professionals' learned their stuff, but they were not much help to him.

Last spring he was on his way to the time out room, in a rage, and pulled a typewriter off the table and let it smash on the floor. He had done worse in the time out room, but this time, they had him arrested.

This last time, they took him out of his math class because he had been 'bad' the day before, and then physically tryed to pull him into the isolation room. He elbowed someone trying to get away. Then he went in the room and threw a manic fit, screaming and yelling and using profanity. Then I guess he calmed down, and three hours later he mouthed off or something, no one will say for sure. And he does not remember exactly what happened (many bipolar people dont' remember what they do when manic), and they decided to call the cops. I guess when the cop told him to stand with his hands against the wall, Blake tried to run. Remember he is in a little isolation room. The cop put the handcuffs on him,and Blake had another manic meltdown, screaming and swearing,being disrepectful to the police, etc. ( I didn't know about this part until today).

I send him to the emtionally distrubed class so they can help him learn to control himself and to recognize when he is losing it. But they have not been any help to him. IN fact I have since discovered that he should not be in that room, as the behavior plans in place there really make someone with his problem worse. So I am changing his placement, or attempting to.

Really the school thinks the only answer to any problem is call the police. They seem to think it will teach him something, but he does not choose these behaviors, they just are part of his problem.

HE is not bad, he is mentally ill. Now I just have to prove it to them.

Thanks for asking.

Pam

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update on court

by pamkw in

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friends

the court thing was very interesting.

the judge remembered my son from before.

the first time he was in court the judge found him not guilty.

pamkw

The court thing was very interesting. The judge remembered my son from before. The first time he was in court the judge found him not guilty. Last spring the judge told the county attorney to reconsider the charges.

This time as we walked up the judge said, "counsellor are you robbing the nursery?"

She stated that he had been here twice before and the charges had been dismissed. The judge then said, "they will be this time also, or something to that effect. She stated since he was 12 (will not be 12 until December) that he needed to do community service or something. I'm shaking my head no, while I am standing there. no way.

I asked the court appointed lawyer where a 11 year old can do community service? Where could I send him to do that service and know he was save? He replied "I'm not disagreeing with you." So since I would not settle, we are going to court again on Nov. 6th. Unless the country attorney takes the judge seriously and drops the charges.

I am getting some information ready for the lawyer about behavior and ADHD and bipolar disorder, so that it can be put in his file, and maybe this will stop happening.

The last time this went to court, the judge was very insulting to the county attorney's office and the school district.

I am also going to appear before the school board, to present to them alternatives to having kids with mental illnesses arrested. I don't know if it will do any good. But my son has 6 more years of school and this has got to stop.

Thanks for all the support.
Pam

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No internet after this weekend

by pamkw in

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just wanted to let you know after monday, i will not have internet for awhile.

since i lost my short lived job, i just can't afford it.

i can't afford anything right now.

pamkw

I will probably go to the library too, as well as my sister's house. I wish I could find some little job, but right now Blake is at home, and I can't go look. It is so discouraging, because even if I get a job, once the school keeps calling because of problems with my son, who knows how long I can keep it. I am right now tackling the problem with the school district and my son's placement. Then after that is over, I am going to look for work. I can handle only one problem at a time. For those who are totally confused. My 11 year old son is bipolar and was in a special classroom for kids with behavior and emotional problems. The school had him arrested, and I lost my job. This isn't the first job I had trouble with because the school could not take care of my son. They have no idea how to handle a kid with Blake's problems. We go to court this afternoon over this last arrest. This school districts answer to every problem is have the kid arrested. I guess they want to scare him. I guess they don't understand you can't scare someone who may not remember what he did the next day. Because I was in training at this job, when I had to leave early I was fired. And now I am just lost as to what to do. I do have a bunch of professional advice (from a website for bipolar kids) so I am holding my own with the school district. Sometimes I wonder why I even try. Pam