Posts by tootired2care

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Abuse by Elders - what to do?

by BallyIrish in

who does one appproach for assistance when emotionall and psychology abused by harsh elders?.

tootired2care

If you can prove real consequences in your life because of their harrassment you might think about consulting a lawer and filing a civil suit against those SOB's.

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One Lord - One Savior : Get Used To It

by Perry in

jehovah in the old testament and jesus in the new testament are one and the same.. .

3. jehovah is salvation.

5. jehovah wants only himself to be worshipped.

I find it appalling that I should have to feel sorry that I was born a sinner. Did I ask to be born? Yet I'm held to account for something I had no control over (assuming you accept the bible). In this day and age humans would not even accept a system of justice that is so cruel.

The only thing this savior/ransom Christianity rubbish is, is a tool of guilt for everlasting enslavement and control. Thanks but i'll pass.

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Oh great now they want to meet with me...help!

by tootired2care in

this fading business is hard!

there really is no come and go freely in this aweful religion (prison) as i'm finding out more and more.

i missed a couple of meetings and now i was asked a couple of days ago if i was a available for a sheparding calltm in a few weeks; i told them i'd get back to them.

tootired2care

zid - if it weren't for my family, I'd totally go the DA route.

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Oh great now they want to meet with me...help!

by tootired2care in

this fading business is hard!

there really is no come and go freely in this aweful religion (prison) as i'm finding out more and more.

i missed a couple of meetings and now i was asked a couple of days ago if i was a available for a sheparding calltm in a few weeks; i told them i'd get back to them.

tootired2care

It's always the timing of the "encouragement" that I find most interesting. It really has more to do with checking up and harrassing you than encouragement, they really are liars aren't they?

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Oh great now they want to meet with me...help!

by tootired2care in

this fading business is hard!

there really is no come and go freely in this aweful religion (prison) as i'm finding out more and more.

i missed a couple of meetings and now i was asked a couple of days ago if i was a available for a sheparding calltm in a few weeks; i told them i'd get back to them.

tootired2care

Great suggestions, thanks for those. I think i'm going to string some of these together and go with a combo defense.

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One Lord - One Savior : Get Used To It

by Perry in

jehovah in the old testament and jesus in the new testament are one and the same.. .

3. jehovah is salvation.

5. jehovah wants only himself to be worshipped.

tootired2care

If you believe the bible, Jesus is a creation; therefore he logically cannot be the only lord, and certainly not God almighty. He is also a mediator between man and God, mediating with yourself would be stupid. These arguments of one lord don't hold water get used to it (LOL)!

Furthermore Christain apologists cannot dismiss the God of the OT, as the apple (son) doesn't fall far from the tree; Jesus being the image of the almighty.

1 Cor 8:4-6

Now concerning the eating of foods offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no God but one. 5 For even though there are those who are called “gods,” whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ,through whom all things are, and we through him.

Col 1:14-15

He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love, 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins. 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him.

Proverbs 8:22-30

The LORD (YHWHhttp://qbible.com/hebrew-old-testament/proverbs/8.html) himself produced me as the beginning of his way, the earliest of his achievements of long ago. 23 From time indefinite I was installed, from the start, from times earlier than the earth. 24 When there were no watery deeps I was brought forth as with labor pains,
When there were no watery deeps I was brought forth as with labor pains, when there were no springs heavily charged with water. 25 Before the mountains themselves had been settled down, ahead of the hills, I was brought forth as with labor pains, 26 when as yet he had not made the earth and the open spaces and the first part of the dust masses of the productive land. 27 When he prepared the heavens I was there; when he decreed a circle upon the face of the watery deep, 28 when he made firm the cloud masses above, when he caused the fountains of the watery deep to be strong, 29 when he set for the sea his decree that the waters themselves should not pass beyond his order, when he decreed the foundations of the earth, 30 then I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time, 31 being glad at the productive land of his earth, and the things I was fond of were with the sons of men.

Hebrews chapters 7-8

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Oh great now they want to meet with me...help!

by tootired2care in

this fading business is hard!

there really is no come and go freely in this aweful religion (prison) as i'm finding out more and more.

i missed a couple of meetings and now i was asked a couple of days ago if i was a available for a sheparding calltm in a few weeks; i told them i'd get back to them.

tootired2care

boc - I like that simple and succinct.

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Oh great now they want to meet with me...help!

by tootired2care in

this fading business is hard!

there really is no come and go freely in this aweful religion (prison) as i'm finding out more and more.

i missed a couple of meetings and now i was asked a couple of days ago if i was a available for a sheparding calltm in a few weeks; i told them i'd get back to them.

tootired2care

This fading business is hard! There really is no come and go freely in this aweful religion (prison) as i'm finding out more and more. I missed a couple of meetings and now I was asked a couple of days ago if I was a available for a sheparding call™ in a few weeks; I told them i'd get back to them. I'm a little nervous about this, I know I shouldn't be I don't respect their authority. My gut reaction is just to say thanks but no thanks; but I fear the elders being the sharks that they are, will smell the blood and circle even more. How can I respond and dodge this and avoid a full scale elder attack?

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