Posts by tootired2care

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Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

by cantleave in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.

tootired2care

Sab - what exactly does heaven like tangibly mean?

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Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

by cantleave in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.

tootired2care

I'm done talking about this, it's pointless.

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Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

by cantleave in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.

If heaven is on earth, then see subject: "why is god allowing so much suffering on earth" or look back to the video that started this thread. Sab - your positions contradict one another any way you look at it.

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Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

by cantleave in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.

tootired2care

This whole notion about the U.S. and Israel is just really hinky and wierd.

The kingdom that Jesus wanted his disciples to pray for was a heavenly organization not earthly one (i.e. U.S.), and If you recall Jesus rejected the nation of Israel. So I don't buy it, that notion is pure speculation. And this is the trouble with religion mixing in with politcs; we must defend Isreal because God commanded it? Do you know how ludicrous that sounds? How is that separation of church and state? That position could very well pull us down a rabbit hole with the whole Muslim world.

Matt 23:37-38 (NIV)

37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate.

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Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

by cantleave in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.

tootired2care

Sab - what makes you think that God is pleased with any political institution of man, free or not? As far as I'm aware there is zero support in the scriptures for this notion. In fact according to Jesus what should you be praying for to come?

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Do You Know C.R.A.P. ?

by Perry in

there is no shortage of ex-elders, behelites, ex-circuit overseers on this forum that continue to spout their hatred for christians, even as they did while leading their former adherents down the same path.

the new religion for these preachers of paradise, is materialism.

in their view, science is the arbitrator of truth.

tootired2care

After seeing that picture, I want to puke, where is his Dagon fish hat?

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Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

by cantleave in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.

tootired2care

Being blessed by God brings good fotune, you don't want your country blessed by God? Do you not think good luck is required to win in life? I know I have had some good luck that has helped me through times whereas if it hadn't come I would have been SOL. Good fortune is very important in the scheme of things and is not arbitrary and should be sought after. The fact is that America is blessed by God as a free nation. So much spiritual progress has come from the freedom the Quakers set up in 1776 and there is no way it doesn't account for something in the eyes of God. America is a "choice cut" as far as countries of the world go.

No I don't, it's pointless. As Han Solo in Star Wars so aptly put it: "Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side. I've been from one end of this galaxy to another and I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controling my destiny."

We are well past the age of believing in luck and superstition, and it doesn't do anyone any good to worry about something as useless and silly as a blessing. As I stated before, separation of church and state is what permitted freedom to flourish and this country to become great. Freedom to innovate and practice science. If it were up to god and religion, America would wait for god to fight their battles for them, as the ancients did, or not take up the sword in defense as Jesus commanded. No, religion is not due the credit of this nations ideals of freedom, military might, and technological prowess, you can thank freedom and science for those.

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Pitiful, Pitiful, PiteeeFULL

by TOTH in

jw
friends

so the hounder hounder co was in town for his bean counting mission and he was invited to pay my ill father in law a visit.

just like every other time he comes since father in law never attends anymore because of his failing health but this time he is a little judgmental.

my father in law felt very much like he was being interrogated rather than shepherded.

tootired2care

Wow that is really quite sad...

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Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

by cantleave in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.

tootired2care

Most Christian's don't get Christianity, at least in my experience. Mainly because they have their nose in the Bible and not on their own lives which is what Christ wanted.

Sab - You're probably correct about that, but to be sure who is to say for sure?

Christians are told to follow follow in Christs footsteps and immitate him. Christ set a pattern of usage for what is written; he spent a great deal of time studying the scrolls as a child, and stated repeatedly "it is written". So naturally you can't really blame followers for trying to follow suit can you?

The simple fact is there are many different interpretations out there today, that no one can authoritatively say for sure who is interpreting things to extreme or too lax. To me it's a big problem when you get these power brokers who have this idea that the U.S. needs to be more theocratic to have gods blessing on the country, because they interpreted the texts in a more extreme way. That to me is scary talk, and is seed of doing some bad in the name of god, just like the crusades. I think it would be refreshing for Christians to own up to the fact that the God of the bible really doesn't take sides with one country post Jesus, and keep these religious ideas out of the secular, political, public educational affairs, and confined to centers of worship and living rooms.

I agree with you about the Muslim terrorist threat though, and I feel that all theocratic governments are a threat to freedom. Any attack on the idea of freedom should be dealt with most severly, and thanks to science we have a military that can do just that.

My overall point is this, we really don't need to have a country that is blessed by god, and run by the rules of Jesus that someone thinks they understand, we'll do just fine with freedom, and freedom will afford anyone to continue to practice their faith however they choose to; or not. I think that is a pretty good deal for everyone. How about you?

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Christian Apologists - Please Watch This and Tell Us Why it is wrong?

by cantleave in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1bzp1wr234&feature=relmfu.

tootired2care

Sab - those practicing Christianity generally will try their best to do what is written, is this true or false in your view?