Posts by tootired2care

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Have you grown detached from caring about JW family and old friends?

by tootired2care in

jw
friends

after being out of the borg for a year and a half, weve dealt with a lot of nonsense from local elders stopping by unannounced, well-meaning do-gooders trying to encourage us.

somehow weve managed to get through this without getting dfd/dad.

for me the worst part of it all has been that much of my family has shunned me, and stopped talking to me, as soon as they heard through the grapevine that i wasnt going to meetings.

tootired2care

@whathappened

That is good attitude to have,

@mind blown

It’s nice to see that you are starting to see some results, I just don’t even know where to begin, I haven’t talked to my dad in almost a year.

@ABibleStudent

You’re absolutely right, living a good life and sharing that through pictures and social media is a great idea. I did that last year after we traveled. Unfortunately I’m not planning any trips in the near future and have just been very busy with work and college, so there is not going to be much to share in the immediate future.

@Coffee House Girl –

I will be graduating college this spring & going on to grad school (I am the only one in my family to ever do this)...and listening to their superficial conversation at the hospital made me realize that I have nothing in common with them anymore. THere is nothing I could say to them to make them change their minds, and any "wordly" successes I achieve mean nothing to them...so we are at an impass.

This resembles my circumstances, I feel as if I’m at an impasses as well. One of the last things I said to my father is that I am going to college, and they just can’t deal with that and me not going to meetings. I guess I just feel if they can’t even acknowledge me anymore why should I? I think I would just like to have a conversation as a formality and get things out in the open and over with to help me move on.

@Pyramid God

I love that. One of the things I really enjoy about not being a JW anymore is that I’m no longer beholden to some silly rules, and I can repay people in kind, and it’s been very refreshing.

@krejames - I never thought I would be considering that it would be a relief losing contact with my family.

It is a very strange feeling. Even when I was a witness I was never really close with my family because they always propped the uber spiritual members of the family above the others and it has never set well with me.

@NewYork44M

You’ve been out a long time, please tell me it gets easier in time to mentally deal with family nonsense?

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Have you grown detached from caring about JW family and old friends?

by tootired2care in

jw
friends

after being out of the borg for a year and a half, weve dealt with a lot of nonsense from local elders stopping by unannounced, well-meaning do-gooders trying to encourage us.

somehow weve managed to get through this without getting dfd/dad.

for me the worst part of it all has been that much of my family has shunned me, and stopped talking to me, as soon as they heard through the grapevine that i wasnt going to meetings.

tootired2care

After being out of the Borg for a year and a half, we’ve dealt with a lot of nonsense from local elders stopping by unannounced, well-meaning do-gooders trying to encourage us. Somehow we’ve managed to get through this without getting DF’d/DA’d. For me the worst part of it all has been that much of my family has shunned me, and stopped talking to me, as soon as they heard through the grapevine that I wasn’t going to meetings. No calls to convince me to go back, just silence which to me is worse.

I’ve thought about trying to reach out to them, but often I just feel what is the point, what would I say? These people love their religion more than their own family. It’s like trying to reason with the Taliban. I never thought I would actually be pondering disowning my toxic JW family. I realize that makes me no better than them, but I just don’t know what else to do.

I guess my outlook is dimming that there is ever going to be a mass exodus. It just seems that here it’s almost 2014 and they still continue to grow despite 100+ years of solid evidence proving that they are charlatans of the worst order. I am getting to the point where I’m starting to feel detached and indifferent to it all, even my JW family. I’ve even gone so far as to ponder not even going to my father’s funeral (he has been very unhealthy for many years). I know I would regret this, but dealing with that entire phony JW funeral BS is just too much to stomach.

What about you, do you still care about JW family and friends or have you grown detached, and cast them off, and with what result to your emotional state? Conversely, what keeps you motivated to keep caring, and where have you had success?

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Microsoft is the true religion!

by processor in

in the light of current events (the witchtower editor is currently visiting the district convention of microsoft's witnesses in berlin, meeting "more than 500 brothers at one time"):.

http://www.svhelden.info/witchtower/2012/05/how-can-you-find-the-true-religion/.

how can you find the true religion?windows in his roof chamber being open ... even three times in a day he was kneeling on his knees and praying and offering praise before his god.

tootired2care

This is awesome...I am laughing so hard right now!!!

Thank you for this.

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jw and jw defenders, have you been born again?

by unstopableravens in

tootired2care

sfpw- i hope you enjoy that demonically laced entertainment.

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BEHOLD! THE GRAND CLIMAX IS AT HAND!

by Brother Mike in

dear friends of jwn,.

the time is now.

it is time to prepare for the "grand climax".

tootired2care

Who is that goes door to door declaring that "the end is nigh" again?

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jw and jw defenders, have you been born again?

by unstopableravens in

tootired2care

sfpw - do you ever wonder how it makes any sense at all that a collection of letters and books spanning centuries are supposed to reconcile to one another? Here is a hint, they don't.

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Is the WTS backing away from "Bible Tall Tales" ?

by Simon in

when i was a kid, it seemed like not a meeting went by when you didn't hear about jonah or sampson and other tall tales from the bible.. now though, they seem to have been sidelined.

i guess the rest of the world caught on to the fact that these stories couldn't possibly be true and were so far fetched (yeah, even by bible standards) that they are just treated as 'stories' like aesop's fables.

saying that you believe in them as genuine accounts just makes you look like a crazy zealot.. but the wts is different.

tootired2care

@comatose

So on the population numbers.... I don't get their explanation. I think my unbeleiving mind has been darkened.

What are they saying?

What they are essentially saying, is that 70 souls moved to Egypt in the second half of the 430 years reported in exodus, and then multiplied to 600,000 abled bodied men + plus women and children (they of course weren't counted, because we know how high women rank in the bible) in 215 years. It's a proposterous tall tale by any stretch of the imagination.

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Since leaving the truth, do you celebrate holidays, and does your participation in such bring you happiness?

by Stand for Pure Worship in

jw
friends

i ask this respectfully, and do so after watching a favorite show of mine's season opener which had a new years storyline.

hollywood tends to make movies and television show episodes centered around holiday themes appear warm and blissful.

while i'm thankful to have never participated in such holidays, i can't deny my curiosity about ex-jws that do celebrate.

tootired2care

@Rattigan350 - I mean, how can Jehovah keep account of a person's celebrating a pagan holiday and then holds it against that person but yet allows a typhoon to destroy the Philipines? We, and what we do, just don't matter.

If you re-read my post I believe we are pretty much saying the same thing.

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Is the WTS backing away from "Bible Tall Tales" ?

by Simon in

when i was a kid, it seemed like not a meeting went by when you didn't hear about jonah or sampson and other tall tales from the bible.. now though, they seem to have been sidelined.

i guess the rest of the world caught on to the fact that these stories couldn't possibly be true and were so far fetched (yeah, even by bible standards) that they are just treated as 'stories' like aesop's fables.

saying that you believe in them as genuine accounts just makes you look like a crazy zealot.. but the wts is different.

tootired2care

The population growth of the Isrealites is another big tall tale. Below is a proof that shows how the numbers reported in the bible are really implausable when tracked against reality.

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Current population growth is 1.2 % per year, even being generous and using a 4% population growth rate (which is unrealistic), the number is not even close to the number reported. This does not even factor in the harsh conditions that shortened life during the bronze age.

Ex 1:1-7

Now these are the names of Israel’s sons who came into Egypt with Jacob; each man and his household came: 2 Reu′ben, Sim′e·on, Le′vi and Judah, 3 Is′sa·char, Zeb′u·lun and Benjamin, 4 Dan and Naph′ta·li, Gad and Ash′er. 5 And all the souls who issued out of Jacob’s upper thigh came to be seventy souls, but Joseph was already in Egypt. 6 Eventually Joseph died, and also all his brothers and all that generation. 7 And the sons of Israel became fruitful and began to swarm; and they kept on multiplying and growing mightier at a very extraordinary rate, so that the land got to be filled with them.

Ex 12:37-40

37 And the sons of Israel proceeded to depart from Ram′e·ses for Suc′coth, to the number of six hundred thousand able-bodied men on foot, besides little ones. 38 And a vast mixed company also went up with them, as well as flocks and herds, a very numerous stock of animals. 39 And they began to bake the flour dough that they had brought out from Egypt into round cakes, unfermented cakes, because it had not leavened, for they had been driven out of Egypt and had not been able to linger and too they had not prepared any provisions for themselves.

40 And the dwelling of the sons of Israel, who had dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. 41

“Awake!” responds: Exodus 12:40 says: “The dwelling of the sons of Israel, who had dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years.” Note that “the dwelling of the sons of Israel” is not limited to the time the Jews spent in Egypt; instead, it evidently covers the entire period that began with Abraham’s entry into the land of Canaan. The apostle Paul showed that this 430-year period began when the Abrahamic covenant was validated. (Galatians 3:16, 17) That occurred when Abraham entered Canaan in 1943 B.C.E. Bible chronology indicates that it was 215 years before the Jews moved to Egypt. That leaves 215 years for the Jews to have actually “dwelt in Egypt.”—See the article “Chronology,” in Volume 1 of “Insight on the Scriptures,” published by Jehovah’s Witnesses.

http://www.metamorphosisalpha.com/ias/ population .php

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Since leaving the truth, do you celebrate holidays, and does your participation in such bring you happiness?

by Stand for Pure Worship in

jw
friends

i ask this respectfully, and do so after watching a favorite show of mine's season opener which had a new years storyline.

hollywood tends to make movies and television show episodes centered around holiday themes appear warm and blissful.

while i'm thankful to have never participated in such holidays, i can't deny my curiosity about ex-jws that do celebrate.

tootired2care

Well as a matter of fact, it is the truth.

Does truth change?