Posts by pandora

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Letter to my mother

by pandora in

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friends

hi guys,.

i've been so busy.

i missed all of you.

There are so many things that Could be said here. I could call it un-Christ-like, unChristianlike, childish, petty, and even cultish. I'm sure there are more. But they all amount to name calling. While I would enjoy it, heehee, this letter is accompaning what amounts to a wedding invitation. This occasion is a dignified event. I do not want to sully it by back-biting and name calling.

The wording of my letter may come off passive to you. But to my mother, the wording used here will be very harsh. Her daughters just don’t speak to her in this way. I appreciate your thoughts and I will ponder how I word those sentences for slightly longer. Thank you for your opinions.

Sentinal

I understand so completely what you have gone through with your mother. Although mine has found it in her heart to speak with me, it is not without its controversies. I can remember way to many screaming matches with her because she spoke to me but none of the other sisters. I never thought that was fair. And there are many times I almost wish that she would shun me so the questions would never get asked. You know, the question of will she come or not? Will she speak to me this week or did she actually hear what the kingdom ministry said about non baptised ones being just as bad? There are always questions where she is concerned.

My husbands family will never understand how a parent could do such a thing to her child. I would hope that they never will. They have brought me into their wonderful family as if I was their own. As I told my mother, they are truely wonderful people.

I would really love it if my family could be whole again. I love and miss my mother terribly. But I know that what she is doing is wrong. And I feel a need to let her know that I feel that way.

I am so glad that you have moved on from the pain your mother has caused you. I think that this letter might help me move forward also. I have been complacent when it comes to her. Many times I have not said what was truely in my heart simply to spare her feelings. But when I think back, I realise that she never did that for me. While I do not want to be rude or mean, I want her to realise how I feel.

I take a chance sending it. It could be the last correspondence with her. But I would rather be honest and go down with the real truth, than cow-tow to her fake truth.

Thanks for your thoughts.

And 'Thank You' to everyone for your well wishes.

-P(J)

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Letter to my mother

by pandora in

jw
friends

hi guys,.

i've been so busy.

i missed all of you.

pandora

Hi guys,

Haven't come by in a while. I've been so busy. I missed all of you. I need some thoughts and opinions, if you don't mind.

Recently I got married to a wonderful man I have known for about 4 years. We just went to the justice of the peace. Nice and simple. But we wanted to have a celebration with our friends and family. So on the 3rd of May we will hold a reception. Here comes my mom.

She has never met my husband. She has never asked to. I have never offered. She was against my divorce from my first husband. When we spoke, she never asked who I was seeing or anything, for that matter. I didn't care if she ever met him. He is a staunch athiest. She a staunch JW. Oh, the fireworks I see in my future.

I want to send my mom an invitation to my reception. She is my mother. I love her. I would like her there with me. The problem: I have 3 sisters. All 3 have been baptised as JW's and disfellowshiped. One went back. But all three will be there. I was never baptised. That is why my mother feels she can talk to me. Anyway, the one that went back to the JW's talks to all the sisters for the most part. She was my maid of honor when I got married and she threw me a shower. She invited mom to the shower, but because one of the disfellowshipped sisters was going to be there, she wasn't going to eat. So the sister in the "truf" told mom she couldn't come.

I wanted to carry on that theme. I realize it is probably petty but I think mom aught to know how I feel about it.

Here is my rough draft. Other than me being petty, I would appreciate your opinions on this letter.

Dear Mom,

I would like to start by saying that I love you and Dad very much. This invitation is my way of saying that I wish you could attend our gathering.

K* told me of your stand against Sh*, and there is no reason to think that you would not take the same stand against L*. Since they will both be sharing this special moment with me and my husband, I see there is a problem. I cannot allow you to disrespect them in such a way and therfore ask that you not plan on attending.

If you can find it in your heart to treat all of your children with respect and love, you are very welcome to attend. Dinner will be served at 4:30p. Bring an appetite.

I hope I'm way off base here mom. Nothing would please me more than to have my family around me on my special day. I would love for you to meet J* (my husband) and his family. They are a wonderful group of people. His mother and I made the invitation you hold in your hand. We have worked very hard, side by side, to bring this day to reality. I will not risk any conflict on that day. I won't allow shunning, and the pain it causes, to be apart of it.

This is all I have so far. I'm sorry this is so long.

Thanks for your honest opinions.

-P(J)

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Divine Victory International Assembly

by Elsewhere in

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friends

here's an odd item on ebay:.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayisapi.dll?viewitem&item=3506986862.

divine victory international assembly name card - its meaning for distressed humanity.

pandora

Outnfree

I remember feeling that way too. (wanting to save my baby girl) Thank goodness something showed us the 'new light'.

HAHA

-P(J)

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Picture of where you live

by RAYZORBLADE in

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friends

for some of us on this forum, we're so far away from one another.

out of curiosity, do any of you have any photos of where you are from, or the communities that you live in?

here's one of toronto.

pandora

Hope this works

This is St Louis Missouri.

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Got this letter

by Yesterdays Child in

throughout the years after having come to know through your marriage to my daughter you have been a very kind and thoughtful person, sometimes more than my own son.

i don't think that a mother-in-law could want a finer person for a son than you.

however, it is very unfortunate that i will have to change the way that i will relate to you now and in the future.

pandora

you can show that real love has nothing to do with religion, and has to do with who we are.

I agree, but with a slightly different conclusion. Real love has to do with who we are. And who the one we love is. SHE is not a very nice woman. I would not want my child to learn from her in any way. In fact, I would consider her to be 'bad association' and I think I would have to mention it, at least, a couple times.

Just my thoughts.

PS. My mom is just like your Mom in Law. I understand completely. I do not allow my daughter to associate with my mother. And, yes, I have told my mother why. Needless to say, she is a braindead dub and doesn't get it.

-P(J)

[still getting the hang of this quoting thing]

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Please help me save my marriage - URGENT

by happyout in

i am fighting to save my marriage, and the person i seem to be fighting against is my husband.

a little background, we had a rough time dating, because he had a hard time being faithful.

i caught him cheating three times, and left him, but he kept asking for forgiveness, promising to change, and i bought into it.

pandora

(((((happyout)))))

Remember what they say, 'It takes two". The state of your marriage is not simply up to you. Both of you are a part of it. Don't take all the blame for a failing marriage where you work hard and he does nothing. I've been there, I've done that. My X never realized there was a problem until I was gone and suddenly he had to clean up after himself. Men are not the smartest of the breed. Sometimes you have to hit them on the head and they still might not get it.

My advice, is to get counseling yourself. When I did, it helped me figure out that I could stand on my own. It helped me put a foot forward toward resolution. It really doesn't matter HOW you resolve the problem as long as it gets resolved. That is how counseling can help. It gives you the strength to start to resolve the problem. To explore the possible ways to solve the problem. The resolution may not be to leave your husband. The resolution might be to learn how to communicate with him in such a manner that he will understand you and actually do something to help. OK that might be far fetched. I don't know. You know your husband better than I do.

Anyway. Don't be down on yourself. You have a right to be happy. If this guy doesn't do it for you, the next guy might. NEVER compare yourself to someone else. You have no idea what secrets couples hide. Does everyone know how bad you feel about your marriage?? No one wants to admit that their marriage is a shambles. Most of the time it has fallen apart many years before either party does anything about it. You've live 6 years like this.

Good luck to you. I hope you end up where you want to be.

-P(J)

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Panic Attacks

by rebel in

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friends

i don't know if this subject has been touched on before - i didn't know what section to put it under.. i have to go to the meeting this sunday - basically emotional blackmail by my husband (long story).

i have suffered from panic attacks in the past.

when i don't go to the meetings, and my family do, i get very panicky and breathless.

pandora

Good Luck to Rebel. No one should have to deal with attacks such as yours.

Please seek help from your doctor as soon as possible.

-P(J)

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Preparing for attack

by Sadie5 in

jw
friends

last night on local news,(tulsa,ok) they warned of a terror attack before the end of the week.

urged us to stock up on bottled water and foods.

have sheets of plastic on hand to cover vents in case of a dirty bomb.. anyone else hearing any warnings?.

pandora

Just a comment on the Cheap Radios. I have a pair of the 9.99ea. specials. My daughter takes one and walks around the block with it, talking the whole way. Works fine. I can't tell you how many brick walls are between us at the time, but you can figure a lot.
The only problem we have had is if someone else is on the same channel. It gets a little confusing figuring out who is talking to who.
-P(J)

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Your Story

by Blueblades in

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friends

hi everyone, blueblades here!

please tell me your story.on a scale of 1-10, how would you rate your current desire to know god personally?

why?thank you.

pandora

blue-

0 would have to be the answer for me. I have absolutely no desire to know god at all. From everything I've heard about him, he isn't someone I want to get to know at all. He is far too violent for my taste.
I lived in fear for too long. I don't anymore. I am going to keep it that way.
-P(J)

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Are all women psychos?

by roybatty in

im not sure if i was married to a psycho or not and am wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience with their ex.

weve been divorced for 2-1/2 years and have had our ups and downs.

because shes a diehard jw and doesnt have grounds to get re-married i get an ear full from her blah...blah.. anyway, one minute shes like "its terrible that i have to wait for you to get married before i can" and then this past weekend she calls me to talk.

pandora

Yes, we are all psycho. And my 11 year old daughter is well on her way to following in her mother's psycho footsteps.
But it's not all bad. The psycho sex can be awsome.

-P(J)