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I recommend his book very much! His talks are part of the reason I reconsidered the last days fallacy. It's also gotten me into several debates already with my JW family members =D

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I am amazed at the ignorance............

by Night Owl in

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i read with great interest the evil spirits thread, amazed at the ignorance on this forum concerning the occult.. if you do not believe in the spirit world, you are certainly akin to toothless hillbillies.

good for moonshine making, cousin marrying and not much else.. both the usa and the russians continue to pursue the occult, following in the foorsteps of nazi germany.

they are not ignorant people, such as yourselves.. hopefully, you non-believers will slowly breed yourselves out of the population, since you are the ones holding back progress, with your precious "science" which is really bullshit in disguise.. so tell me, what separates you "intellectuals" from those so called ancient ignorants?

Flat_Accent

Look Night Owl, I don't know who you think you are, but you're certainly coming across as an asshole right now.

You seem to have a problem that some others do on this forum, in thinking that because they haphazardly escaped one dogmatic cult, they've accrued some vast knowledge and understanding about what real 'truth' is. No. We're all stupid. We're stupid enough for being drawn into that cult in the first place, and we're stupid enough to probably do it again. Yes, that includes myself.

Secondly, I don't know where you got the idea that the Government has some sort of monopoly on occult information, and they're 'pursuing' it, as if there is anything even remotely tangible in doing so. I haven't seen a worthwhile politician in the US or Russia for a long time, let alone an intelligent one. Politicians are as stupid as the constituents that give them office, many of whom are also tied down by ridiculous superstition.

Third, although it's very easy to critisize the tried and tested way of proving things, what makes YOUR method any better? How are you evaluating your information, through personal account and revelation, or second hand testimony? Neither of those 'evidences' can come to you without some faulty information, and often times these things happen without a second witness.

If there is a supernatural dimension out there, once it can be assessed and proven, it will no longer be supernatural but natural, because it will be part of the natural world, and can be tested, reviewed, and used to further our understanding of the universe.

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The Preparation Directive

by Flat_Accent in

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That's what I thought, but I figure it must be a global message they've sent out regardless of the probability of disaster. They're just trying to scare those wavering witnesses back into servitude.

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The Preparation Directive

by Flat_Accent in

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Well cantleave, if you tie that in with fatfreeks new light on this issue, we may be needing EVEN MORE toilet paper this time round.

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The Preparation Directive

by Flat_Accent in

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^bad post so i'll try again

I got into a slight debate with my dad the other day, and of the range of issues we were talking about, he brought up 5 times that the 'society are preparing us, they are telling us to prepare for the end.'

Later that same day I was going into the kitchen and my parents were discussing what to buy in case of an emergency - things like canned goods, lots of water etc. I asked them what the sudden rush for buying emergency goods was about (we live in England, very few natural disasters here). My mum informed me the Society had told them to have preparations in case of emergency.

Obviously there's an e-mail or a letter that has gone round the congregations recently, so I'm interested to know what you have heard from your Witness relatives and friends about this new fear-mongering tactic?

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The Preparation Directive

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Should I say something?

by Flat_Accent in

my parents are quite popular in their congregation, and they're constantly inviting brothers and sisters over.

as i've been part of the org for 19 years i know all these people very well, and before i da'd myself i was good friends with all of them.

every other friday they invite a single brother round for dinner, just to cheer him up a bit.

Flat_Accent

Yep. I mean really they probably shouldn't be talking to me at all. But they still come over, though conversation towards me is kinda stifled. I'm more of an extra, if you catch my drift.

I like your idea, LostGeneration. Just the odd cackle every now and then. >:D Although going out could be a good idea too.

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Should I say something?

by Flat_Accent in

my parents are quite popular in their congregation, and they're constantly inviting brothers and sisters over.

as i've been part of the org for 19 years i know all these people very well, and before i da'd myself i was good friends with all of them.

every other friday they invite a single brother round for dinner, just to cheer him up a bit.

Flat_Accent

If only it were my house. I wouldn't have them over to begin with.

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