i'm gonna play the skeptic today on a topic that is painful for a lot of people on this forum.
my intent is not to stir anything up but to make sure facts are confirmed.
bear in mind, i'm sickened by the wt's role (and the heirarchy down to elders) in child molestation cover-ups.
here is a link to a pdf i printed off the vic gov court website. I had phoned the court and they confirmed the cases were being heard on the 21st Feb 2012 and they gave me the web address to see. I printed it out so you can see the address it came from.
SweetBabyCheezits kudos to you for making your concerns in a valid manner.
I rang the court back in dec to confirm it wasnt a scam in any way.
Az
the mind boggles: the australian government / victorian government is held up to ridicule by people all over the world for failing to prosecute the wtb&ts, eg.jehovahs witnesses, for refusing to obtain working with children checks over a period of three years,in spite of the various agencies offering to give advice and assistance over that period of time to obtain one.
they arrogantly refused any such help.
today we learn that the dept.of prosecutions has taken over the case with the intent to dismiss this case because it`s" not in the public interest.
soft+gentle ring the Australian branch and ask them.
let us know what they say.
Az
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i think those are fair questions..... .
Once again Shepherd steps into the fray.
Do what i did months ago shepherd ring the actual court on 03 5116 5222. They told me the web location to see the upcoming hearing list for the 5 cases. The daily hearing list is held only for the previous day then no longer searchable.
Here is a link to a pdf of printout from the Latrobe Valley Magistrates Court i printed on the 19/12/2011
Easy enough for a JW apologist like shepherd to make credibility attacks on people seeking to expose the WTS.
I received another two letters today from Victorian Parliment members.
Dated 17/2/2012 Victorian Treasurer Kim Wells MP Thanked me for letter.Agreed the case was disturbing and forwarded my letter to the Victorian Attornry General for comment.He will be seeking a comment from the AG.
Dated 20/2/2012 Shadow Minister for Crime Prevention and Anti-corruption Jill Hennessy. Thanked me for my letter.She also finds abhorrent any form of violence against children.
I will write to her with my dis satisfaction with the DPP and ask her as the Shadow minister for anti coruption to please make enquiry into this debarcle.
Just because Steven was gazumped by the DPP doesnt mean he is questionable.Friends dont turn on friends. Very unshepherd like conduct.
DisappointedAz
the mind boggles: the australian government / victorian government is held up to ridicule by people all over the world for failing to prosecute the wtb&ts, eg.jehovahs witnesses, for refusing to obtain working with children checks over a period of three years,in spite of the various agencies offering to give advice and assistance over that period of time to obtain one.
they arrogantly refused any such help.
today we learn that the dept.of prosecutions has taken over the case with the intent to dismiss this case because it`s" not in the public interest.
There is a Victorian radio host named Derryn Hinch who actually went to jail for publically naming convicted pedophiles who had thier names supressed. I will try an email to him and raise his awarness of this travisty of justice.
Az
we need to e-mail the state prosecutor in steven unthanks case right now , please see 3mozzies thread "the governing body to escape ..........".
stevens letter and the e-mail addy are on there.. .
please do it folks, let the guy know the world is watching.
Good work guys ive sent emails to both Senator Xenophone and to The Director of public prosecution giving my name and address in Australia.
I will happily rewite to all Vic Parlament members my concerns with his questionable decision.
Just everyone do what they can, it cant hurt.
Az
from jw newshttp://jwnewsnetwork.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/governing-body-of-jehovahs-witnesses-to-escape-judgment-for-crimes/.
governing body of jehovahs witnesses to escape judgment for crimes against the children?february 20, 2012 .
corporate accused: watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc.. case no.
Good work all.
I just emailed Senator Xenophone and asked that he if able assign a staffer to look into this disturbing action by the Victorian OPP.
I also emailed the Director of Public Prosecutions and asked for a written explanation as to what "not in the public interest" means in this case? I informed him that i have written to every member of the Victorian Parlament to raise their awarness of the coming court testing of the Working with children Act of 2005. I have received numerous responses that they would follow with interest the case in court. I informed him i will begin writing again to each member and express my concerns for the safety of Victorian children who are JW. I gave him till tomorrow evening to reply with why he made that descision otherwise i will commence my writing campaign again.
There is so little i can do but i will try what i can. Thank you to all our international friends who have written and emailed their concerns.
Az
Concerned note:" Stevens website is down at the moment? hope all is ok.
the mind boggles: the australian government / victorian government is held up to ridicule by people all over the world for failing to prosecute the wtb&ts, eg.jehovahs witnesses, for refusing to obtain working with children checks over a period of three years,in spite of the various agencies offering to give advice and assistance over that period of time to obtain one.
they arrogantly refused any such help.
today we learn that the dept.of prosecutions has taken over the case with the intent to dismiss this case because it`s" not in the public interest.
I sincerely hope the GB in their ivory tower look with smug satisfaction that they have routed the enemy from thier gates. I hope they are as smug as the Jewish religious leaders were as they drove the Romans of in 66CE. What goes around will come around and pay them back for their disregard for children.
Smiddy i just feel so tired now.
Az
from jw newshttp://jwnewsnetwork.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/governing-body-of-jehovahs-witnesses-to-escape-judgment-for-crimes/.
governing body of jehovahs witnesses to escape judgment for crimes against the children?february 20, 2012 .
corporate accused: watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc.. case no.
For me what is sad before i was DF i was a friend of Vin Toole and also of the two brothers who "handle" cases of child abuse within JW , all three are very well respected within the JW and i had respected them as well, but i feel sick thinking of how they allowed the welfare and protection of children "God's children" to come a distinct 2nd place to protecting the name of the WTS and of predatory JW's.
Perhaps theres more than one way to shame them. Im just in need of ideas.
Az
i have no doubt that in a few weeks when the campaign to spread memorials invites is underway that my good friend, the jw, will give me an invitation.
she has already told me that she would support me when walking in, telling me that i could sit next to her and she wouldnt give a damn what others would think that she was encouraging a disfellowshipped person.
she is very sweet, and i appreciate her thoughts.. however, i would rather not go because i believe the whole thing is done wrong anyway.
TimothyT i understand where your at . I went to last years memorial as a DF person, kinda hedging my bets at the time. Like you this will be the first memorial by JW that i have missed in my 41 years on earth. Man we just have to reaffirm the true truths from the bible and not give credance to the Jesus is only special today day called the memorial.
Still think what if im wrong but i know they are wrong arent they?
Az
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i know enough shit to know that theres a hell of alot of shit that i know nothing about.
Az
